ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
No but you did say "For those banging on about GERS look up Dr Craig Dalzell's....Beyond Gers. It just might give you an eye opener". Why would it be an eye opener if it is just some random bloke?
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No but you did say "For those banging on about GERS look up Dr Craig Dalzell's....Beyond Gers. It just might give you an eye opener". Why would it be an eye opener if it is just some random bloke?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
As I said soooooooooooo predictable.
Irony alert!!
You do realise the GERS report is published by the Scottish government. That same SNP led government you extoll endlessly. Or do you prefer to get your truth from dodgy newspaper articles?
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Not sure where this thread has gone ...
personally not that impressed with the budget, think the middle classes have once again been tasked with paying for it. Why raise basic wages, why not reduce benefits? Why not chase outstanding tax bills from large companies? Why not collect tax retrospectively from those who are profiting from the British public but are based in tax free off shore havens?
Hopefully when election time comes, we will have all flavours to choose from but the key point will be "leaving" i.e. To leave there has to be a voted majority in the house. That would be the full legal position. I may even vote tactically!
personally not that impressed with the budget, think the middle classes have once again been tasked with paying for it. Why raise basic wages, why not reduce benefits? Why not chase outstanding tax bills from large companies? Why not collect tax retrospectively from those who are profiting from the British public but are based in tax free off shore havens?
Hopefully when election time comes, we will have all flavours to choose from but the key point will be "leaving" i.e. To leave there has to be a voted majority in the house. That would be the full legal position. I may even vote tactically!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
That'll be Patrick Minford of the 'We should just walk away from the EU now' brigade,
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/696854/patrick-minford-brexit-economist-theresa-may-mark-carney
And the sooner the better because delay is putting off the start of the 'boom' days. Right - just what the CBI Conference was calling for - let's just walk off the cliff edge and see how we get on. Funny how business and industry didn't seem to fancy that idea too much.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Was away last week and tend to listen to the radio over watching the box or reading national papers... One program was talking about the OBR and their ineptitude on getting their forecasts anywhere near right... Now, if these were real people trying to hold down proper jobs in the real world... This lack of productivity would almost certainly see them being shown the door...
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
That's a very lazy post. Rather than dismissing his view why dont you look at the link I posted that outlines some of his ideas and explain how they are incorrect.
He has not suggested we 'Just walk off the edge and see how we get on' he has explained clearly how in the EU we are missing out on international trade and lower World prices and have the opportunity to be better off. He also explains clearly that even the worst case scenario of us adopting WTO rules is not a disaster like so many negative thinkers are portraying. Try opening your mind a bit to other options.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
If you recall I did listen to him fairly recently and posted his views on what he thought Brexit should look like - you agreed with most of his points - but not all. I can't find that post I made and your response. So yes - I have been listening to Minford - for quite some time.
And you are quite right he has not said we should walk off the edge of a cliff - of course he wouldn't - he said we should leave IMMEDIATELY. And what do the CBI think of that? Well not a lot...From an open letter 6th Oct signed by the CBI I other business orgs
...leaving the EU without any preferential trade arrangement and defaulting to trading by standard World Trade Organisation rules would have significant costs for British exporters and importers, as well as those in their supply chains. 90% of UK goods trade with the EU would be subject to new tariffs. That would mean 20% in extra costs for our food and drink industry and 10% for our car producers. Every credible study that has been conducted has shown that this WTO option would do serious and lasting damage to the UK economy and those of our trading partners. The Government should give certainty to business by immediately ruling this option out under any circumstances.
http://www.cbi.org.uk/news/cbi-signs-open-letter-to-government-on-brexit-negotiations/
So not exactly aligned with Minford's thinking
But what do they know about business and industry.
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Old Skier
Tour Winner
It seems that there are some major players who don't agree with the CBI and since the referendum have indicated some very major investment in their company's , Jaguar even made a statement to the fact after the autumn statement.
I know now it's not in your will accept any of the positives on leaving the EU but it appears that there are some major players in business and industry who do. But what do they know.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Par for the course.
Scotland's payment share of the UK infrastructure fund £1.9 billion, of which it receives £830 million whilst two London Palaces get £4,400 million.
Scotland's payment share of the UK infrastructure fund £1.9 billion, of which it receives £830 million whilst two London Palaces get £4,400 million.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Nothing being paid towards the upkeep for the shed on the hill then.
It's about time you started paying something out to your landlords 😂
Sounds fair to me. For example, unless Scotland has its own DVLA, there's a share to be paid out. That no doubt applies to many of the UK wide elements of infrastructure that are outside of Scotland.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
errm....we are talking new additional infrastructure funding in the thread named Autumn statement.
Scotland does have its DVLA.....it is called DVLA. Perhaps you thought it belonged to England, common mistake.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Scottish Parliament is funded through the Block Grant.
One click on Google would have given you that info.
You seem to be a follower of the new Brexiters style.
Act first think later
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
errm....we are talking new additional infrastructure funding in the thread named Autumn statement.
Scotland does have its DVLA.....it is called DVLA. Perhaps you thought it belonged to England, common mistake.
There was me thinking it 'belonged' to Wales...
Same as the palaces that happen to be in London...
They 'belong' to us all...
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
If you read what others post before replying you may make a bit more sense.errm....we are talking new additional infrastructure funding in the thread named Autumn statement.
Scotland does have its DVLA.....it is called DVLA. Perhaps you thought it belonged to England, common mistake.
When he says 'Own DVLA' he means one that they OWN. Last time I looked it was a UK asset and located in Wales.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Your geography or understand of what I refer to appears to differ.
PS the build of the shed you refer to was payed for initially by the UK tax payer.
Foxholer
Blackballed
And hugely over budget too!
errm....we are talking new additional infrastructure funding in the thread named Autumn statement.
Scotland does have its DVLA.....it is called DVLA. Perhaps you thought it belonged to England, common mistake.
...erm, common mistake is your common mistake. It's "own," not owned. As usual, it's you that's missed the point that others seemed to have no bother understanding.
If the UK leaves the EU do you think the EU will be doing any divvying up? If Scotland leaves the U.K. do you think it should get its cake and eat it?