Aussies caught cheating on camera

Don Barzini said:
Sledging has become part of the game, which is a shame really. But I suppose the equivalent of it happens in every team sport. True to say that a lot of the ones who dish it out can’t take it when the tables are turned. Warner is a prize example.

I think its appalling if it happens at amateur level though. I played village cricket a few years back after not playing since I was a teenager and I was surprised to see (and hear) it go on. I played for a men’s team and we had a few teenagers playing for us too. One time a young lad of 14 or 15 went out to bat and as he entered the field, several grown men started giving him verbal abuse along the lines of “You’re only here to make up the numbers, you won’t last long”. He was a good player but the poor kid didn’t fare too well as a result and was almost in tears when he came back from the middle.
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I should not say this but my son plays U8 pairs cricket and it was his first (half) season..
Playing against other U8/9 teams is mostly fun as they all ‘turn up’ and there is not much more than that.
However we played a team (which I believed won the league) and they were sledging .. and it’s U8s. It got so bad that one of the parents who was umpiring had to ask their kids to calm down!! It might have been seen as fair game by the coach. My nipper just froze as he had never heard anything like that before (and thankfully after).

When we got home nipper asked me to put some throw downs to him and ‘speak like the other team’ .. left a bad taste. Kids get it from telly, parents and the coaches... and it starts early
 
MetalMickie said:
One of my sons made his debut in the Leics Premier League at the age of 14 and when in the forties (finished 48 n.o.) was told by the opposition wicket-keeper that it was "the sh****est" batting he had seen all season. Andrew is a keeper himself and he responded by saying to this 38 year old "I know but stick around and you will at least see some decent keeping!"

The guy was apoplectic with anger and started going on to his team-mates but unfortunately for him they had collapsed with laughter. Also had a former Kent & Leics bowler have a go at him and he too couldn't take it when the youngster had a go back.

Like I say I cannot see the point.
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Brilliant from your son. I was decent as a junior, sadly did not progress, and was targeted a few times by adults. Unfortunately I froze, I was intimidated, and I would have loved to have come back as your son did. Only sledged once as an adult, stopped being good so was no longer a threat. I smiled at the bloke and laughed, it sent him nuts.

The best response I saw was when I was at the other end to one of our opening batsmen, an oldish bloke. The opposition opening bowler sledged him. He stood stock straight, pointed his bat at him and asked him if he wanted to go over to the car park and sort this out. The bowler went white, apologised and never said another word.

Sledgers are generally bullies and target decent players, hence why they sledged your son.
 
I was a good wicket keeper (well at club level) but should have batted #12. Made Ambrose, Tufnell or any other famous rabbits look good. We played a team at their place and I was last man in with about a dozen left to win with #10 at the other end who was not a great batsman either. We blocked, left, blocked and you could see the opposition getting frustrated. Their keeper started giving me some verbals. I smiled. Eventually there was a ball outside off stump a decent batsman would have driven with ease. I got a thick edge which sailed past the keeper for four. I simply turned round and said "if you'd opened your big mouth you'd have caught that". We managed to eek out the win with a ball to spare. The opposition barely stayed for the formalities despite being the home side.

I don't mind it. Had it in team sports, and given it as well but at U8 level that's a sad inditement of what youngsters are seeing on the TV and thinking is the norm.
 
I admit to dishing a fair bit out as a narky quick(ish) bowler. You would always pick your targets. Old rivalries, grudge players, players who had given it me in the past. Never young kids, rabbits in headlights or people making up numbers.
Ironically, onwards the end of my playing days it was the younger 18 or so yr olds who were the worst for giving it....
With regards to the Oz situation is it worse than what atherton did?!? I just can’t stand Warner, but that’s more as an England fan than anything. I wonder if Smith will ever recover?
 
Karl102 said:
I admit to dishing a fair bit out as a narky quick(ish) bowler. You would always pick your targets. Old rivalries, grudge players, players who had given it me in the past. Never young kids, rabbits in headlights or people making up numbers.
Ironically, onwards the end of my playing days it was the younger 18 or so yr olds who were the worst for giving it....
With regards to the Oz situation is it worse than what atherton did?!? I just can’t stand Warner, but that’s more as an England fan than anything. I wonder if Smith will ever recover?
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Yes it is. It was premeditated and organised/supported by 2 senior players, not a couple of young kids.

They all need to be held responsible and they all need to answer the questions. They've brought shame on every aussie.
 
Karl102 said:
I admit to dishing a fair bit out as a narky quick(ish) bowler. You would always pick your targets. Old rivalries, grudge players, players who had given it me in the past. Never young kids, rabbits in headlights or people making up numbers.
Ironically, onwards the end of my playing days it was the younger 18 or so yr olds who were the worst for giving it....
With regards to the Oz situation is it worse than what atherton did?!? I just can’t stand Warner, but that’s more as an England fan than anything. I wonder if Smith will ever recover?
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But what is the point if the player on the receiving end is obviously unaffected.

As an opening bat I always found bowlers sledging to be largely pathetic and was never intimidated so, again, why bother. Let your bowling do the talking.
 
MetalMickie said:
But what is the point if the player on the receiving end is obviously unaffected.

As an opening bat I always found bowlers sledging to be largely pathetic and was never intimidated so, again, why bother. Let your bowling do the talking.
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Like I said, the batsman that got it, were the ones that gave it when they were fielding.
 
Stuart_C said:
Yes it is. It was premeditated and organised/supported by 2 senior players, not a couple of young kids.

They all need to be held responsible and they all need to answer the questions. They've brought shame on every aussie.
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Yup, I agree.... having the young lad do it was out of order and stupid, to an extent I do feel sorry for him. Must have been intimidated. Playing devils advocate, wasn’t Arhertons soil in his pocket as well?
 
fundy said:
Warner as good as admitting others are involved without naming them. Pretty horrendous press conference all in all
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And by him saying that Cricket Australia have a problem. If they hang him out to dry he could give kiss and tell interviews that would really blow the lid off what has gone on. If it becomes a damage limitation exercise I'd expect punishments to be reduced, e.g. as seen recently with the SA bowler.

As for all the tears, and a shift in the tone of reporting in some areas to sympathy... pathetic.
 
Hobbit said:
And by him saying that Cricket Australia have a problem. If they hang him out to dry he could give kiss and tell interviews that would really blow the lid off what has gone on. If it becomes a damage limitation exercise I'd expect punishments to be reduced, e.g. as seen recently with the SA bowler.

As for all the tears, and a shift in the tone of reporting in some areas to sympathy... pathetic.
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There's nothing worse than a cheating (premeditated) Aussie, oh yes there is, it's a blubbering cheating Aussie!

You know where you'll find sympathy....mate....
 
Pathetic press conference. Didn’t really answer any question directly. Just trotted out the same scripted response. He has also basically admitted that others were involved.

He was a seriously disliked figure in cricket before all this so he must know that he probably has no future in the game. I think he’s setting himself up for a huge tv interview where he finally answers some questions truthfully. Then he’ll hopefully pi$$ off into the sunset!!
 
still say bans are excessive to say the least
remind what atherton got for same offence
are we going to stop players eating sugary sweets that they dont touch off the field
 
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