Ashes 4th Test

Fantastic viewing, without a doubt. Although unlikely, Aussies could finish us off before lunch and then bat for two days and then bowl us out cheaply. Until England have 400 on the board I'll keep the champagne on ice and save a urine taking till then - wind the Aussies up too much and they might just turn and bite!

C'mon England!
 
Hobbit said:
Fantastic viewing, without a doubt. Although unlikely, Aussies could finish us off before lunch and then bat for two days and then bowl us out cheaply. Until England have 400 on the board I'll keep the champagne on ice and save a urine taking till then - wind the Aussies up too much and they might just turn and bite!

C'mon England!
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They might skittle England out before lunch but that batting line-up is there for the taking. Once past the top 3 its happy days: Clarke is Broad's bunny, Voges is not a test batsman and Marsh doesn't look that much better.
 
Great day yesterday..words can't really do it justice. However...Australia do have to bat again! There was still some swing about with the old ball yesterday, in bright sunshine, so it could be interesting how it develops. One thing is for sure, Australia will not bat like that did first time round, and I would say that England won't bowl like that again the second time round.
 
Tongo said:
They might skittle England out before lunch but that batting line-up is there for the taking. Once past the top 3 its happy days: Clarke is Broad's bunny, Voges is not a test batsman and Marsh doesn't look that much better.
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Remind me what the scores were in the 2nd Test at Lords. Maybe a glance at England all out for 103 in their 2nd innings... Without a doubt England are likely to win but I'll save counting the chickens just yet.
 
Hobbit said:
Remind me what the scores were in the 2nd Test at Lords. Maybe a glance at England all out for 103 in their 2nd innings... Without a doubt England are likely to win but I'll save counting the chickens just yet.
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What about the 3rd test last week? Lets not forget England are 2-1 ahead.
 
Words can't really express how good yesterday was, however, Australia do have to bat again, and one thing is for certain...they won't bat like that again, and likewise, we probably won't bowl like that again.
 
ooops, a double post. Not entirely sure how that happened...

Friday senior moment. At 28.
 
Tongo said:
England were abject at the World Cup and deserved the slaughtering they got in the media. Then they were mediocre at best in the West Indies. Thankfully, much has changed since then. Most importantly Moores was sacked and England are playing cricket again rather than looking at what the laptop and the data tells them. They are also playing cricket with a smile on their faces which hasn't been happening for a long time. This England team is a far cry from that which went to the World Cup. Most of the personnel may be the same (certainly from the Windies tour) but the attitude and ethos is a world away. Lets just be happy that English cricket is actually exciting again.
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I don't believe the sacking of Moores had anything to do with the turnaround!

Things have just gone superbly well for a mediocre to very good England side and (superbly) badly for a mediocre to poor Australian one!

If things had really turned round, Australia wouldn't have won the match that they did!

Attitude and ethos (in Cricket) are very much affected by what's actually happening and England are ';well up for it'! Feel good about what is happening, but don't think the magic formula has been discovered! The next disaster is almost certainly just around the corner and it will happen for no apparent reason - but everyone will have their opinion as to why!!
 
Foxholer said:
I don't believe the sacking of Moores had anything to do with the turnaround!

Things have just gone superbly well for a mediocre to very good England side and (superbly) badly for a mediocre to poor Australian one!

If things had really turned round, Australia wouldn't have won the match that they did!

Attitude and ethos (in Cricket) are very much affected by what's actually happening and England are ';well up for it'! Feel good about what is happening, but don't think the magic formula has been discovered! The next disaster is almost certainly just around the corner and it will happen for no apparent reason - but everyone will have their opinion as to why!!
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I didn't say they had discovered the magic formula, just that they have been playing a more positive style of cricket since the start of the NZ series. Sometimes it has worked well, sometimes it hasn't. Its likely to be the same for some time.

England are by no means world beaters but they are playing some good, attacking cricket. And its a vast improvement on the drab, dreary, stats dominated style under Moores.
 
Think if things had gone well today they would've batted on and declared maybe half an hour before tea to try to bat Australia right out of the match and hopefully only have to bat once. With wickets falling there wasn't much point keeping them out there. Agree with the commentators that it's a good declaration.
 
Bold, creative captaincy from Cook, exactly what his critics have claimed he lacks, and exactly what he's shown today. Superb stuff. Warner and Rogers would not have wanted to come out for this 10 minute spell!
 
Dan2501 said:
Bold, creative captaincy from Cook, exactly what his critics have claimed he lacks, and exactly what he's shown today. Superb stuff. Warner and Rogers would not have wanted to come out for this 10 minute spell!
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Most on one of the cricket forums saying its a stupid declaration. I tend to agree with you. If the ball is still moving around a bit, get the Aussie batsmen out there and try and capitalise rather than bat on and risk having to bowl in less favourable conditions.
 
Dan2501 said:
Bold, creative captaincy from Cook, exactly what his critics have claimed he lacks, and exactly what he's shown today. Superb stuff. Warner and Rogers would not have wanted to come out for this 10 minute spell!
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I've been one of Cook' s critics over negative captaincy but think that's a great declaration. Wonder how much of the previous negativity was down to former coaches and now he's being encouraged to be more positive like the rest of the team.
 
Steady start from the Australians, could end up closer than people think. What's the weather forecast?
 
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