Anyone up for Old Course ballot August 21 / 22?!

[richart]

.... But not as good as Lundin Links! :lol:

I have played Lundin Links, and was a bit disappointed after the rave reviews on here.

TOC has more stand out holes than any other course I have played. Not sure where all this rubbish spouted about it just being an experience and not a good course. In my opinion 14th is about the best par five I have played, and 11 one of the best par 3's. The only holes I am not so keen on are 8 and 10.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are the other 90 points all awarded for the quality of the course or is it broken down into other categories as well? I'm thought that when Mike responded to this in the past he mentioned more things.

The five categories are: the quality of test and design (35 points), the condition and presentation of the course (30 marks), its visual appeal (15 marks), the club’s facilities (10 marks), and the overall visitor experience (10 marks).


The Old Course is always up in the top ten of the Worlds list from multiple reviews/mags etc all over the world - if the course wasn’t that good then I don’t see it being that high so often and for so long

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Are the other 90 points all awarded for the quality of the course or is it broken down into other categories as well? I'm thought that when Mike responded to this in the past he mentioned more things.

Phil has it spot on above ^^

http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/courses/top-100-courses/top-100-criteria-60844

 

[User101]

I have played Lundin Links, and was a bit disappointed after the rave reviews on here.

TOC has more stand out holes than any other course I have played. Not sure where all this rubbish spouted about it just being an experience and not a good course. In my opinion 14th is about the best par five I have played, and 11 one of the best par 3's. The only holes I am not so keen on are 8 and 10.

Comedy gold. You must've played some rubbish courses if you think the 9th is a good hole :rofl: you sure it's no pitch and putt you play :whoo:

11th is a fantastic par 3, 14 is a good par 5 but best you've ever played :mmm: 1st has the biggest fairway in golf, as does the 18th that have no hazards with the exception of the burn at the first green.

I'm really starting to think none of you lot have actually played it other than on the play station :rofl:

 

[User101]

The five categories are: the quality of test and design (35 points), the condition and presentation of the course (30 marks), its visual appeal (15 marks), the club’s facilities (10 marks), and the overall visitor experience (10 marks).


The Old Course is always up in the top ten of the Worlds list from multiple reviews/mags etc all over the world - if the course wasn’t that good then I don’t see it being that high so often and for so long

So you actually believe that if TOC was lets say in south West Scotland it would score as well as it does ??

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

So you actually believe that if TOC was lets say in south West Scotland it would score as well as it does ??

Why wouldn't it?

 

[Imurg]

So you actually believe that if TOC was lets say in south West Scotland it would score as well as it does ??

Quality of test and design plus presentation and visual appeal wouldn't change.
Facilities would be the same
The only change would be visitor experience which accounts for a small %age of the overall score.....
So..........

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So you actually believe that if TOC was lets say in south West Scotland it would score as well as it does ??

Of course - where the course is located won’t change how good the course is nor will it change the marks given to it by the assessors

 

[User101]

Why wouldn't it?

Because those who rate it can't separate the aura from the reality.

However, on the scoring, it's the home of golf, where it all started, so design is going to be top marks, how can you not give it top marks, it's the original. Condition, it's the home of the R&A and the home of golf, so it's not going to be in anything other than top condition, so again, top marks. Visual appeal, it finishes right in to the town, so top marks, visitor experience, top marks.

So it's very easy to see why it finishes high up there based on the criteria yet as a golf course without the pomp and ceremony, it's still only the 3rd best course on that strip of land, nevermind in the UK :thup:

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Because those who rate it can't separate the aura from the reality.

However, on the scoring, it's the home of golf, where it all started, so design is going to be top marks, how can you not give it top marks, it's the original. Condition, it's the home of the R&A and the home of golf, so it's not going to be in anything other than top condition, so again, top marks. Visual appeal, it finishes right in to the town, so top marks, visitor experience, top marks.

So it's very easy to see why it finishes high up there based on the criteria yet as a golf course without the pomp and ceremony, it's still only the 3rd best course on that strip of land, nevermind in the UK :thup:

Well, you carry on believing whatever you want. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[richart]

Comedy gold. You must've played some rubbish courses if you think the 9th is a good hole :rofl: you sure it's no pitch and putt you play :whoo:

11th is a fantastic par 3, 14 is a good par 5 but best you've ever played :mmm: 1st has the biggest fairway in golf, as does the 18th that have no hazards with the exception of the burn at the first green.

I'm really starting to think none of you lot have actually played it other than on the play station :rofl:

Perhaps as a parkland golfer you don't appreciate a good links ?:whoo:

 

[User101]

I'm glad you've actually posted the criteria cause it almost makes no reference to the actual holes on the course..

Condition ?
Design ?
Appeal ?

No where asking, how interesting are the holes around the loop (worse run of holes in golf) 6/7/8/9/10, possibly the dullest holes ever. How hard is the tee shot on the first...easiest in golf.

 

[User101]

Perhaps as a parkland golfer you don't appreciate a good links ?:whoo:

Cut my teeth on links, played most of my early golf at Carnoustie and was a member of St Andrews for a number of years....:whoo:

 

[User101]

Well, you carry on believing whatever you want. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I've asked this question a few times on here and yet to get a decent answer, so I'll ask it again, with the exception of, 11, 14 and 17, what other holes do YOU think are great golf holes on that course ?

 

[richart]

Cut my teeth on links, played most of my early golf at Carnoustie and was a member of St Andrews for a number of years....:whoo:

whoosh.

 

[User101]

whoosh.

Poor effort, found out again.

 

[SammmeBee]

Might get another ban for this but......Cabby you are a BELL END!!!

 

[richart]

Poor effort, found out again.

Not really. I think everyone on the forum knows about your membership of St Andrews , and how the TOC is not in the top 3 courses there. Or you dislike of the 9th, or how wide the fairway is on the first. You do bang on about it, so definitely a whoosh old boy.:thup:

 

[User101]

Come up with a decent debate as to why it's so great, yet to read anything other than it's in the top ten so must be great....

I've stated clearly how I think it's average, no one has said why it's so great, couple of "decent" holes, and that's it, still waiting to read what's so good about the "course"

 

[User101]

Might get another ban for this but......Cabby you are a BELL END!!!

Is that it ? Is that the best you've got to add to the discussion ?