Orikoru
Tour Winner
Closed and Open is not adjusting the loft, it's for the face angle. Closed to promote draw, open to promote a fade.
Any benross users?
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Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Which is how it effectively adjusts the loft. IIRC, when you set the face to open, when you address the ball and the face is open you will then square the face up, thus effectively lowering the loft. Conversely set to closed you manipulate it open to square the face thus adding effective loft. Tom Wishon explains it much better if you google him.
U is for upright; square face angle but a more upright lie angle.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
That's not really adjusting loft in the conventional sense though - most drivers they are separate things that can be adjusted independently aren't they? i.e. changing face angle will affect​ loft but it is not strictly adjusting it.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Well if that isn’t how adjustable drivers work them perhaps you could explain to the OP how you do adjust the loft on a driver; bearing in mind that the loft angle is set when the driver head is made and the hosel setting is the only thing that can be changed I’d love to hear how the loft is actually changed.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well my driver has a soleplate that closes or opens the face angle, while the hosel adjustment changes the loft. I've no idea how the Benross Type R does it though.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
You can't actually adjust the loft of a club at the moment without altering the brace angle slightly. The head and lower part of the hosel are fixed.
As BiM says, if you add "loft" you're effectively closing the face so to recreate your normal view you have to rotate to open the face a touch - this effectively adds the loft.
Any movement of the hosel adjusters will alter face angle slightly.
Some clubs only move by a degree or so but some can make 4-5° difference which is a big chunk!
As BiM says, if you add "loft" you're effectively closing the face so to recreate your normal view you have to rotate to open the face a touch - this effectively adds the loft.
Any movement of the hosel adjusters will alter face angle slightly.
Some clubs only move by a degree or so but some can make 4-5° difference which is a big chunk!
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
No. You. Haven't.
http://wishongolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/adjustable-hosel-drivers.pdf
Read the stats for how the Taylor Made R1 loft "changes" when "adjusted" as measured by an industry guru. A whole quarter of a degree up or down. The loft is fixed as it is set at the factory, the adjustments come from deceiving your eye to manipulate the face. If you won't take my word for it, take Tom's or tell him where he is going wrong.
albie999
Newbie
Still trying to get my head around this, so thought would share some pics of the shaft settings
Standard setting - therefore 10.5 degree
C = Closed = advises -1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 9 degree
Upright = not sure what that means
O = Open = advises +1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 12 degree
Standard setting - therefore 10.5 degree
C = Closed = advises -1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 9 degree
Upright = not sure what that means
O = Open = advises +1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 12 degree
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
If you do a net search on Titleist adjustment chart. This gives a good idea of what goes on. Their adjuster is actually a double mechanism so they give better control of just adjust loft without too much opening and closing of the face.
