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MetalMickie said:
Why?

The vast majority of people who watch football without being supporters of other top clubs couldn't care less about how the likes of City, PSG or Real Madrid are funded.

They just enjoy watching the top players.
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Why ? Well it’s the rules for one , should clubs be able to use their wealth to try and bypass the rules - sorry not for me regardless of who it is

PSG and City have used their vast wealth to try and get past rules that were designed to stop people using vast personal fortune to spend beyond a clubs means.

Whether people should be allowed to do that or not is a different discussion but right now their are rules in place and clubs should adhere to them
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Why ? Well it’s the rules for one , should clubs be able to use their wealth to try and bypass the rules - sorry not for me regardless of who it is

PSG and City have used their vast wealth to try and get past rules that were designed to stop people using vast personal fortune to spend beyond a clubs means.

Whether people should be allowed to do that or not is a different discussion but right now their are rules in place and clubs should adhere to them
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There have been clubs utilising the wealth of their owners/directors ever since there have been professional clubs.

FFP Rules were the idea of the then established clubs trying to protect their dominance.

In other words they were an exercise in self preservation
 
MetalMickie said:
There have been clubs utilising the wealth of their owners/directors ever since there have been professional clubs.

FFP Rules were the idea of the then established clubs trying to protect their dominance.

In other words they were an exercise in self preservation
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Ok, lets spin it on its head.

If City have done what they are alleged to have done, to you totally condone them for flagrantly cheating against the rules?
 
Liverbirdie said:
Ok, lets spin it on its head.

If City have done what they are alleged to have done, to you totally condone them for flagrantly cheating against the rules?
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Because of my sincere feeling that, as I said, the rules represent nothing more than an attempt at "self preservation" by the old guard I really couldn't care less

There has been no integrity in the game since long before I started following it in the late fifties.

The level of hypocrisy throughout football is staggering. We have recently witnessed the tragedy at Leicester and the late owner has been rightly praised for his financial support of the Club and local good causes.

Yet the fact that Leicester City gained promotion from the Championship by flouting Football League FFP Rules is conveniently overlooked.

Meanwhile the same journalists who praised Vichai continue to criticise City and PSG.
 
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MetalMickie said:
Because of my sincere feeling that, as I said, the rules represent nothing more than an attempt at "self preservation" by the old guard I really couldn't care less

There has been no integrity in the game since long before I started following it in the late fifties
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Every generation has said that Mickie.

You make City sound so innocent and "plucky" breaking up the so called established order.

Outside of Leicester, no small to medium club has won the prem in years. Back in the 60/70/80's all sizes of clubs could win it.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
We were pish poor tonight, one of the worst performances under klopp i can remember.

Hopefully a kick up the ass in time for sunday.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Every generation has said that Mickie.

You make City sound so innocent and "plucky" breaking up the so called established order.

Outside of Leicester, no small to medium club has won the prem in years. Back in the 60/70/80's all sizes of clubs could win it.

Be careful what you wish for.
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It's not a "so called established order".

What is the suggested European Super League but a further exercise in self preservation?
 
Stuart_C said:
We were pish poor tonight, one of the worst performances under klopp i can remember.

Hopefully a kick up the ass in time for sunday.
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I just watched the highlights now...... hit the post, crossbar, sturridge misses target from 6 yards, Mane miss kicked a sitter, plus a couple of other chances.....seems to me we could have played for 900 minutes and still not scored.

Onwards and upwards.
 
MetalMickie said:
There have been clubs utilising the wealth of their owners/directors ever since there have been professional clubs.

FFP Rules were the idea of the then established clubs trying to protect their dominance.

In other words they were an exercise in self preservation
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I thought the FFP rules were brought in after lobbying by the Spanish (and Italian league to a degree) to combat the financial clout of the Premiership clubs with their tv deal and then the foreign owners moving in as a result of the big tv deals.
RM, Barca and Juve have for years been bank rolled beyond anyone else in European footy and so to have the Premiership teams coming in with their financial clout was a big shock to them.
There has never been financial fair play in European footy, and you will always struggle to get it.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Totally agree on the European league, and I for one really hope it doesnt go ahead.
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I think that it (or something similar) is inevitable.

None of the big clubs want to share TV and sponsorship money and foreign owners, be they from the Middle East, America or the Far East, can't understand the lack of security attached to possible relegation.
 
Red Star 0 Arsenal 1

'Arsenal scrape past Serbian farmers'



Red Star 2 Liverpool 0

'Plucky Liverpool lose to former European champions'

😂😂
 
Shocking decision in the City game to give a penalty. Sterling kicks the floor and falls over and the defender was nowhere near him. If the ref couldn't see it what was the goal line official looking at or was he too busy laughing at the way Sterling went down
 
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