And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[pokerjoke]

Any successful European manager committing to go to Utd will want some assurances about the squad. Changing the manager might be worth a few more points but it won't see Utd get from 6th to 4th. That would need Utd to win 4 more games than the team currently in 4th, and for Arsenal in 5th to have a poor run too.

Would any top players go to a club that doesn't have CL football, and maybe no Europa League if things aren't turned around?

I suspect this season 4th would take some doing but I wouldn’t count it out.
Jose has been a joke this season far too many changes and decisions a top manager wouldn’t have made.
I certainly wouldn’t worry about top players not coming if they are wanted.
Also top players are not everything,look at City,just a top manager that can get the team playing unbelievable football.

 

[Jensen]

Maureen’s problem was it was all about him.
If you have a fallout with a player you don’t leave him out to the detriment of the team.
He was a bad appointment in the first place so you have to look at the people who gave him the job.
Can they be trusted not to do the same again.

Su

Maureen’s problem was it was all about him.
If you have a fallout with a player you don’t leave him out to the detriment of the team.
He was a bad appointment in the first place so you have to look at the people who gave him the job.
Can they be trusted not to do the same again.

Surely Alex Ferguson had a hand in his appointment....bit of concern considering he recommended David Moyes

 

[huds1475]

No it hasn’t, Jose won you trophies and got you to 2nd in the PL, the standard of football may of dropped for the fans, but you knew exactly what you were getting when Jose was signed and he delivered some of that.
City and LPool as examples!! Ha Ha, that’ll be the Club bought out with Oil money and constantly under investigation for their money dealings and Lpool, now on a strong footing, some fans of whom are still not happy with the owners and still not won a trophy in........
If Lpool keep Klopp they’ll be succesful, but prior to him they’ve been through a bit of turmoil with owners and managers.
So not sure how you see them as illustrative examples!

Ok.

Both have a clear vision of where they want to be, how they want to get there and provide a foundation / support for their teams / managers to achieve.

It's basic management Paul.

We have no coherent managerment, replacing the manager won't fix that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Any successful European manager committing to go to Utd will want some assurances about the squad. Changing the manager might be worth a few more points but it won't see Utd get from 6th to 4th. That would need Utd to win 4 more games than the team currently in 4th, and for Arsenal in 5th to have a poor run too.

Would any top players go to a club that doesn't have CL football, and maybe no Europa League if things aren't turned around?

Next appointment is key and what he does is key - Utd could hit the same drought that hit Liverpool , even if Pochettino takes the job - is he good enough ? Can he attract the better players. Utd have thrown away a lot of money since Taggert left both on players and managers , other clubs are more attractive for players at the moment , would it ever get to stage where they need to sell to buy and are going to be battle Everton or West Ham etc for those 7th/8th spot

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Some wag has just pointed out that Moyes still has 5 months left on his Utd contract and is available .

Biggest loser, also lifted from the internet, The Lowry Hotel in Manchester where Mourinho has been staying. Without room service included the estimate for his stay is around £500k. Considering the housing available in the area I am amazed that he chose to stay in there for the duration. Cheaper to rent a mansion and hire a cleaner and cook.

 

[huds1475]

They have now!
Just like Utd had with the same owners under Fergie!
Did Utd become the biggest club in the world without all of that?

Super, let's agree to agree. I have work to do.

 

[MegaSteve]

Opportunity for Giggsy?

 

[Wolf]

As an Arsenal fan I'm gutted Mourinho has been sacked

It's been needing to happen for a long time though, the complete imbalance in the squad and cohesion it's going to need someone that can work with that, would it be a surprise if we see Conte there next season.

I can't see a top manager anywhere in the world leavung a job at another top club mid season to go to Utd with the state of things.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I can't see a top manager anywhere in the world leavung a job at another top club mid season to go to Utd with the state of things.

Don't underestimate the size of the wages paid out by PL teams. It's a no brainer, 3 yr deal at 2-4 x existing salary and if you get sacked you get a massive pay off and go back to your previous country exclaiming how the PL is daft for managers. Credibility largely stays the same but they are significantly richer.

Gary Neville has posted some good comments today. He has stated how Utd need to look at what they want first of all, "My view is they need someone who meets the three key principles of that football club - the promotion of youth, entertaining football and to win football matches. " , and then go from there. Mourinho never fitted that brief, not all 3 aspects. Find a manger who suits the DNA of the club, not a panic appointment like Jose.

 

[Wolf]

Don't underestimate the size of the wages paid out by PL teams. It's a no brainer, 3 yr deal at 2-4 x existing salary and if you get sacked you get a massive pay off and go back to your previous country exclaiming how the PL is daft for managers. Credibility largely stays the same but they are significantly richer.

Gary Neville has posted some good comments today. He has stated how Utd need to look at what they want first of all, "My view is they need someone who meets the three key principles of that football club - the promotion of youth, entertaining football and to win football matches. " , and then go from there. Mourinho never fitted that brief, not all 3 aspects. Find a manger who suits the DNA of the club, not a panic appointment like Jose.

I'm not underestimating their spending power at all by I do think the reputation of the club is not what it was to managers that would be looked at as viable options.

Clubs a shambles with how they've appointed managers in recent years with Moyes, Van Gaal and now Maureen. The squad is hugely imbalanced with no identity, easy to blame Maureen for that but they were just as bland and lopsided under Moyes and Van Gaal, Maureen just made it worse in some areas.

I think a manager needs to look at Utd now not as a top echelon club of yester year but as a project that obviously some built in huge potential but it is a project nonetheless and a new manager isn't going to take that group straight to league titles without an overhaul and that will take a while.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Wolf - Spot on . They are similar to Arsenal under Wenger at the moment, better players though I would say. It will take a couple of seasons to really turn them around and that is difficult if they can not tempt players with CL football. Top players seem to want that as a given and they may lose some big names as well as struggle to gain new, top, ones. The alternative is they end up over paying on wages, eg Sanchez, to make up for it.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Klopp’s gotta hatrick

 

[Dan2501]

So much potential in that United squad - a team that has Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Martial, Sanchez and Rashford should be playing some of the most entertaining football in the league. Was a matter of time before Jose got the boot, just curious now to see who will step in. Would not be good for United if they have to use a Caretaker for the rest of this season before starting a fresh in summer, which is one of the rumours I've been reading. I can see Zidane or Pochettino taking it.

 

[spongebob59]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1074977641999097856

 

[Beezerk]

Opportunity for Giggsy?

Giggsy who looks to have turned a half decent Wales side into a stinking pile of poo. Actually yes get Giggs in, that would be the death knell for Man Utd for sure.

 

[pokerjoke]

Giggsy who looks to have turned a half decent Wales side into a stinking pile of poo. Actually yes get Giggs in, that would be the death knell for Man Utd for sure.

Yes never a job for Giggsy until he’s actually has a proven record and that may never happen.
I’ve said it for years Fergie should have taken him under his wing years ago.

 

[Papas1982]

Yes never a job for Giggsy until he’s actually has a proven record and that may never happen.
I’ve said it for years Fergie should have taken him under his wing years ago.

Giggs had opportunities to go down the ladder to lower levels as a manager and didn’t want too.

30 years ago he may have got the job at end of his career, but now the topmclubs need a manager with stature. Something he doesn’t have, despite what he may have felt.

 

[clubchamp98]

Su


Surely Alex Ferguson had a hand in his appointment....bit of concern considering he recommended David Moyes

Well if that’s the case then they need to stop taking his advice.
He’s had his day .
It’s a tough one but the next manager is crucial for the club and the direction it’s going.

 

[Wolf]

Pretty much my entire social media feed is littered with Utd fans calling for Zidane as manager like he's the next Messiah.

He did well with Real in Europe,. He was a phenomenal player one of my all time faves in fact but I do not see him as a good fit for Utd. Just can't see him being a manager that goes to a team that needs a complete turn around.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Seem that the two guys being talked about are Southgate and Blanc - please please please be true

Hopefully they don’t get someone like Allegri or Simeone