And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[fundy]

Well if you say Chelsea will win the league every year and Liverpool will finish 6/7/8/9/10th every year, it doesnt look like it comes from a wise point of view, now does it?

Certain people on here were saying get rid of Klopp this time last year. He has now addressed our defensive problems to a point. The front 3 arent pulling up trees at the moment, yes, but I'm not too worried at the moment. Joint top after playing Spurs and Chelsea (should have won there) and City to a clean sheet. Palace and Leicester away have always been tough for us, as well.

I'm not from the talksport generation, who judges everything in a 2 week window.

Def more organised with VVD but both he and Lovren committed stupid tackles in the box that another day cost you 2 goals, Lovren often looks an accident waiting to happen (us arsenal fans recognise these ) not so sure youre probs at the back are resolved for good, definitely there to be got at through the middle

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Geez, good to see the usual suspects have all got their tinted glasses on haha. If were within 2 points of you, then youre not that good currently because we certainly arent

PS Anyone seem Homer?

Alive and kicking ta muchly having just sat through a nightmare 90 minutes at the pub. Needed beer after such a defensively poor performance. The future for the season not looking good. We need points and fast

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Def more organised with VVD but both he and Lovren committed stupid tackles in the box that another day cost you 2 goals, Lovren often looks an accident waiting to happen (us arsenal fans recognise these ) not so sure youre probs at the back are resolved for good, definitely there to be got at through the middle

We've conceded 3 goals this season, 1 was a mistake by Becker v leicester and a mistake against spurs by robbo iirc.

Defensively we've looked solid with Gomez and VVD as a pairing at CB.

That was a tough game today and city deserve credit for restricting us. I thought Lovren was excellent today though.

 

[fundy]

We've conceded 3 goals this season, 1 was a mistake by Becker v leicester and a mistake against spurs by robbo iirc.

Defensively we've looked solid with Gomez and VVD as a pairing at CB.

That was a tough game today and city deserve credit for restricting us. I thought Lovren was excellent today though.

do you say the same if the ref gives the penalty as he should for his brainless kick at aguero from behind?

stats dont always tell the whole story, you may have only conceded 3 but could easily have added 2 more today

 

[Liverbirdie]

Correct, but we were up against one of the best 2 attacks in the league. Lovren's first game back this season (he is actually a decent defender 95% of the time, but when he makes a mistake it's normally a car-crash).

No-ones defence is ever sorted for good in the premiership, but we've only let in 3 goals in 8 games, whereas other "top 6" sides have let in 7,10 and even 14 in the same number of games and we've also played 3 out of last years top 6 already.

Everything isnt rosy in the garden, but our defence is now one of the better ones, and every was saying we wouldnt win anything with our defence last year. Now we have we're getting tipped to struggle - Madness.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

do you say the same if the ref gives the penalty as he should for his brainless kick at aguero from behind?

stats dont always tell the whole story, you may have only conceded 3 but could easily have added 2 more today

Even if the ref gave the second penalty we have been very strong defensively- a world of difference compared to last season. VVD and Gomez have been near on perfect as a pair. The backline at the moment isn’t a worry - the front threes dip in form is getting close to being a worry

 

[Tashyboy]

Salah has scored the same amount of goals as he did at this stage last season and Lovren was still a part of a back four that your attacking players couldn’t break through.

That is weak phil very weak, Salah had chances in that game that by his standards of finishing was very poor, Lovren is being made to look good alongside VVD, yet when he is one on one. If I was a Liverpool fan, let's just say my bum cheeks would tighten. Gary Neville said he thought that Liverpool/ Salah look very jaded and playing the front three v Napoli did not help Liverpool today, furthermore he said Liverpool are not blowing teams away like they sometimes did last year, inc City. City blew teams away week after week last season, yet this year City as Pep expected are playing the same teams who are now packing there defence, City are adapting, Liverpool are not. Looking at Chelsea this year is at times like looking at City last year. I think Chelsea are City's biggest rivals this year.

 

[fundy]

Correct, but we were up against one of the best 2 attacks in the league. Lovren's first game back this season (he is actually a decent defender 95% of the time, but when he makes a mistake it's normally a car-crash).

No-ones defence is ever sorted for good in the premiership, but we've only let in 3 goals in 8 games, whereas other "top 6" sides have let in 7,10 and even 14 in the same number of games and we've also played 3 out of last years top 6 already.

Everything isnt rosy in the garden, but our defence is now one of the better ones, and every was saying we wouldnt win anything with our defence last year. Now we have we're getting tipped to struggle - Madness.

certainly not tipping you to struggle, just think its short sighted to think youve fixed your defense if you still have Lovren in it

 

[fundy]

We've conceded 3 goals this season, 1 was a mistake by Becker v leicester and a mistake against spurs by robbo iirc.

Defensively we've looked solid with Gomez and VVD as a pairing at CB.

That was a tough game today and city deserve credit for restricting us. I thought Lovren was excellent today though.

btw you enjoying the current version of Arsenal fan TV where everyones happy

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That is weak phil very weak, Salah had chances in that game that by his standards of finishing was very poor, Lovren is being made to look good alongside VVD, yet when he is one on one. If I was a Liverpool fan, let's just say my bum cheeks would tighten. Gary Neville said he thought that Liverpool/ Salah look very jaded and playing the front three v Napoli did not help Liverpool today, furthermore he said Liverpool are not blowing teams away like they sometimes did last year, inc City. City blew teams away week after week last season, yet this year City as Pep expected are playing the same teams who are now packing there defence, City are adapting, Liverpool are not. Looking at Chelsea this year is at times like looking at City this year. I think Chelsea are City's biggest rivals this year.

Why is it weak ? Salah started last season slowly missing chances and is doing the same this season , Lovren had one moment when he made that clumsy kick on Aguero but his tackle when “one on one” against Jesus was pure quality.

What’s this “City” are adapting stuff - for all your possession against a jaded Liverpool team you still didn’t really create that many clear chances if any - yet Liverpool still could have sneaked the win. Did City adapt against Wolves when they dropped points as well ?

Last year people said Liverpool would do nothing with their defence - now they will do nothing because they don’t adapt ?!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Why is it weak ? Salah started last season slowly missing chances and is doing the same this season , Lovren had one moment when he made that clumsy kick on Aguero but his tackle when “one on one” against Jesus was pure quality.

What’s this “City” are adapting stuff - for all your possession against a jaded Liverpool team you still didn’t really create that many clear chances if any - yet Liverpool still could have sneaked the win. Did City adapt against Wolves when they dropped points as well ?

Last year people said Liverpool would do nothing with their defence - now they will do nothing because they don’t adapt ?!

Tbf tho Liverpool did nothing last season 🙈

 

[Fish]

That is weak phil very weak, Salah had chances in that game that by his standards of finishing was very poor, Lovren is being made to look good alongside VVD, yet when he is one on one. If I was a Liverpool fan, let's just say my bum cheeks would tighten. Gary Neville said he thought that Liverpool/ Salah look very jaded and playing the front three v Napoli did not help Liverpool today, furthermore he said Liverpool are not blowing teams away like they sometimes did last year, inc City. City blew teams away week after week last season, yet this year City as Pep expected are playing the same teams who are now packing there defence, City are adapting, Liverpool are not. Looking at Chelsea this year is at times like looking at City last year. I think Chelsea are City's biggest rivals this year.

I agree, irrelevant of how many goals Salah has already scored and the comparisons etc, he’s had loads of other chances that have gone begging, and if you’d have given him half a chance last season, he’d have taken it, but that’s not happening now, he’s not as sharp or clinical, maybe he’s morphed into Sterling and now needs 10 chances to convert 1 😜😂😂

 

[Deleted member 1740]

certainly not tipping you to struggle, just think its short sighted to think youve fixed your defense if you still have Lovren in it

Hes the world's best CB according to himself......

Credit where its due though, Lovren was excellent today.

If i had my way he'd never wear a red shirt again.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

btw you enjoying the current version of Arsenal fan TV where everyones happy

I've not logged on for a few weeks since robbie and DT had a barney 😁

 

[Deleted member 1740]

do you say the same if the ref gives the penalty as he should for his brainless kick at aguero from behind?

stats dont always tell the whole story, you may have only conceded 3 but could easily have added 2 more today

From where i was it looked a rash stupid challenge but since seeing it on the tv it wasnt as bad as it looked.

Aguero's reaction at the time made me think it wasnt a pen and watching it again i think i dont think it was enough to warrant a pen.

Even if he gives the pen, lovren was excellent today.

on a sidenote i heard today was Man City's lowest possession and highest number of fouls according to the chaps on the wireless.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

From where i was it looked a rash stupid challenge but since seeing it on the tv it wasnt as bad as it looked.

Aguero's reaction at the time made me think it wasnt a pen and watching it again i think i dont think it was enough to warrant a pen.

Even if he gives the pen, lovren was excellent today.

on a sidenote i heard today was Man City's lowest possession and highest number of fouls according to the chaps on the wireless.

Wonder how many of them were from Fernandinho- he should have been off

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Wonder how many of them were from Fernandinho- he should have been off

I was surprised he didnt even get a yellow for persistent fouling.

After all the cryarsing from city fans about last season's CL bus attack one of the 1st songs they sang was about us being victims..... City fans doing a Chelsea trying there best to create a rivalry with us 😏

 

[clubchamp98]

Tactical game and to be fair both defences played well.
Both teams attackers were average at best.

Some strange decisions by ref.

Thought Loren tried to pull out at last minute but caught Aguero. But he played very well.

Don’t know how Fernandinho stayed on the pitch after the elbow and numerous other fouls.
Mane a lucky boy!

Salha looks like he put his boots on the wrong feet today but how bad does he have to play to be replaced.
If it’s not his day give someone else a go.

We still give the ball away to much but credit City they played well.
But a draw with the Champions is not a disaster.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I was surprised he didnt even get a yellow for persistent fouling.

After all the cryarsing from city fans about last season's CL bus attack one of the 1st songs they sang was about us being victims..... City fans doing a Chelsea trying there best to create a rivalry with us 😏

Another set of fans who've nicked our Allez, allez allez song.

Tashy, whats the words, I'm guessing:-

We conquered all of division 3, we even finished top,

From Grimsby down down to Gillingham, we beat the ######lot,

Sheikh mansoor and Qataris, Ricky hatton and Oasis,

We are loyal supporters, and we've won the Zenith Data ......Allez,allez,allez........

 

[TheDiablo]

I think Liverpools problem this season will ironically be the opposite of last season.

The front 3 were almost perfect last season. Truly outstanding. I've long thought they were at maximum output and would it would take an incredible effort to simply sustain it this season. It looks as though they will be quite a way short.

They're also completely reliant on them. Klopp evidently doesn't fancy Shaqiri and Sturridge/Lallana are the walking dead - ticking time bombs. Nobody from CM is scoring 10. With a 50+ game season straight off the back of a 60 game season they look jaded and the games are only going to come thicker and faster. I'm not sure how Klopp is going to get them firing again.

Compare that to City who have like for like options everywhere and goals from CM too and I think they'll pull away in the next couple of months.

I could of course be completely wrong!

On the flip side, the defence looks so good. The Gomez/VvD partnership has real potential and the full backs are awesome. Keeper looks solid enough, a definite improvement and is the reason for the good league start.