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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Despite voting Tory for many elections, as do large swathes of Kent, if the leading players jn the Labour party were not anti semitic, terrorist loving Marxist following lying morons then I could easily switch allegiances. So, vote Tory GET BREXIT DONE, vote in a new Labour leader, Chancellor and Home Secretary in waiting, and then I'd possibly lend them my vote in 5 years time ?
 
chrisd said:
Despite voting Tory for many elections, as do large swathes of Kent, if the leading players jn the Labour party were not anti semitic, terrorist loving Marxist following lying morons then I could easily switch allegiances. So, vote Tory GET BREXIT DONE, vote in a new Labour leader, Chancellor and Home Secretary in waiting, and then I'd possibly lend them my vote in 5 years time ?
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we are not allowed to call any of the law abiding politicians Morons. But i know what you mean (y)
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Remind me again which policy in the Labour manifesto will result in increased taxes for those earning less than £80k - I can't remember...

Self-employed? Not sure that self-employed can say for 100% how much they do earn in a year. The nature of being self-employed. But OK.
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Im self employed but can tell you exactly what i earn through the set amount on the contracts i have with companies using my services and through tax returns that have to be filed each year. Im nowhere near 80k in earnings but under Labour's manifesto going to be so much worse off that id have to consider going back to PAYE as the companies i contract to have stated in Labour get in then they will cut costs by ending contracts and only employing in house.

If that happens im royally screwed as id be paying a lot extra for the remaining time on my contracts and then earning less as PAYE? literally labour getting in creates the worst financial situation for my family and it would mean big changes for us.

But i don't want Tory party leadership either, hence voting for something different to both on Thursday.
 
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Im self employed but can tell you exactly what i earn through the set amount on the contracts i have with companies using my services and through tax returns that have to be filed each year. Im nowhere near 80k in earnings but under Labour's manifesto going to be so much worse off that id have to consider going back to PAYE as the companies i contract to have stated in Labour get in then they will cut costs by ending contracts and only employing in house.

If that happens im royally screwed as id be paying a lot extra for the remaining time on my contracts and then earning less as PAYE? literally labour getting in creates the worst financial situation for my family and it would mean big changes for us.

But i don't want Tory party leadership either, hence voting for something different to both on Thursday.
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Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of
 
ColchesterFC said:
What absolute nonsense. I'm self employed and every year I have to file my accounts. I know down to the last penny what I've earned in that year.
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Yup - I get that - but not really what I meant. I was more thinking about what someone who is self-employed might earn the next financial year...or the year after...Of course they will be able to make a pretty good estimate but I'm thinking not 100% certain as self-employment has such uncertainty - risk plus opportunity.
 
chrisd said:
Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of
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You can be 100% certain of that...until he is forced to for no fault of his own ;)

And you can be certain of it also with ANY party of government.
 
chrisd said:
Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of
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Fully understand what your saying Chris and if I only had the choice of 2 parties (labour or tory) and based on the manifestos launched by them I'd end up voting Tory for the sake of my family.

But I'm not voting tactically i have looked at all the options and manifestos launched by all parties running in my area and am genuinely going to vote for who fit's my views the most and neither Labour or the Tories fit my criteriea, absolutely nothing tactical at all.

But as I said on here just yesterday despite all the goings on and issues with both the main parties I can see Boris sitting in No10 with a glass of bubbly come Friday morning regardless.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Yup - I get that - but not really what I meant. I was more thinking about what someone who is self-employed might earn the next financial year...or the year after...Of course they will be able to make a pretty good estimate but I'm thinking not 100% certain as self-employment has such uncertainty - risk plus opportunity.
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If Labour get in they're still going to be paying more in tax than they are now and that's whether they earn £30k or £50k next year. Still far short of the £80k that the Labour party have been lying about.
 
[QUOTE="chrisd, post: 2090257, member: 3139"]Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of[/QUOTE]

Isn't that the whole point of tactical strategic voting, in that you are voting to try and avoid someone you really don't want getting into power? So for example I if really do not want Boris in power, instead of voting for my usual party I could vote for the party that has the best chance of beating him in my constituency. And if they do indeed end up in power then it is a success as Boris is not in power.
 
Tactical voting is like trying to agree something with your partner. You both end up doing something neither of you wanted to do.

Any vote that is not for a main party will bring a risk of a hung Parliament and if that happens we will stagger on in disarray for even more years with immense damage to our economy.
 
chrisd said:
Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of
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Isn't that the whole point of tactical strategic voting, in that you are voting to try and avoid someone you really don't want getting into power? So for example I if really do not want Boris in power, instead of voting for my usual party I could vote for the party that has the best chance of beating him in my constituency. And if they do indeed end up in power then it is a success as Boris is not in power.
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For so many there won't be any party they want in power. I can see there being a lot of no-voters or paper spoilers.
 
drdel said:
Tactical voting is like trying to agree something with your partner. You both end up doing something neither of you wanted to do.

Any vote that is not for a main party will bring a risk of a hung Parliament and if that happens we will stagger on in disarray for even more years with immense damage to our economy.
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Just imagine another round of what's been going on in parliament recently ?
 
drdel said:
Tactical voting is like trying to agree something with your partner. You both end up doing something neither of you wanted to do.

Any vote that is not for a main party will bring a risk of a hung Parliament and if that happens we will stagger on in disarray for even more years with immense damage to our economy.
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On a scale of Corbyn (1 or 10 depending on who you vote for) to Brexit (1 or 10 depending on how you vote for) how dangerous will it be?
 
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