• We'd like to take this opportunity to wish you a Happy Holidays and a very Merry Christmas from all at Golf Monthly. Thank you for sharing your 2025 with us!

AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 18645
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Had a phone call an hour ago, apparently from Ben Bradleys team ( our Tory MP). Anyway they wanted to know who i am voting for. I told them i am not saying who but it will deffo not be Corbyn. I said " I will not be voting for the best option, but making sure i don't vote for the worst option".For me theres a massive difference. I went onto say that i believe the worst Government in History will be voted in. That being a Tory government. Because we have the worst ever opposition party in Labour, and the most inept opposition leader ever in Corbyn.
 
chrisd said:
Just the theme of the Tory election broadcast just shown
Click to expand...

Haven't seen it but what category of CCHQ propaganda does it fall into this time?

a) Outright lies
b) A doomed attempt to make Boris look empathetic, relatable and truthful
c) More banging on about Getting Brexit Done
d) All of the above
 
Hacker Khan said:
Haven't seen it but what category of CCHQ propaganda does it fall into this time?

a) Outright lies
b) A doomed attempt to make Boris look empathetic, relatable and truthful
c) More banging on about Getting Brexit Done
d) All of the above
Click to expand...

You've let me down, you've let the forum down, but most of all you've let yourself down. We're not angry we're disappointed. It's your duty to watch it asap and come back to us with a #factcheck of it. (y)
 
Hacker Khan said:
Haven't seen it but what category of CCHQ propaganda does it fall into this time?

a) Outright lies
b) A doomed attempt to make Boris look empathetic, relatable and truthful
c) More banging on about Getting Brexit Done
d) All of the above
Click to expand...

If you haven't seen it, it's based on the Disney film Bambi, he comes across as sweet and lovable
 
chrisd said:
Strategic voting is fine Wolf so long as you dont put into power someone else you really dont want. At least with Boris there isn't going to be huge tax increases on everything you can think of
Click to expand...

Just lots of cuts affecting millions more ?

chrisd said:
Just the theme of the Tory election broadcast just shown
Click to expand...

Did they concentrate on their succesfull past ten years

I wonder why they aren’t using the past ten years in their election campaign - highlight all those promises they have kept from previous campaigns ?
 
drdel said:
Tactical voting is like trying to agree something with your partner. You both end up doing something neither of you wanted to do.

Any vote that is not for a main party will bring a risk of a hung Parliament and if that happens we will stagger on in disarray for even more years with immense damage to our economy.
Click to expand...

Rainbow coalition governments function fine in many countries and provide checks and balances, their parliamentarians seem to behave like grown ups too, coalition arguably a good thing rather than let hard right or hard left do whatever they want in turn, no matter the cost.
Saying that it seems the UK just doesn't work politically any more. Dont know how things will improve but another 5 years of Conservatism under the current cabinet of Johnson, Rees Mogg, Hancock, Gove and their ilk will fill many with utter dread. There will no sense of magnanimousness, just gloating and provocation should Tories win a working majority.

Expect political turmoil for the foreseeable, it's here to stay no matter how it goes on Thursday.:oops: Might sound pessimistic but there is no sense of unity and Boris winning certainly won't bring any.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Just lots of cuts affecting millions more ?



Did they concentrate on their succesfull past ten years

I wonder why they aren’t using the past ten years in their election campaign - highlight all those promises they have kept from previous campaigns ?
Click to expand...

They couldn't possibly adversely affect more people than the Labour's manifesto promises to.

They dont need to highlight the successes as you and I are still in work, something that will quickly change if Labour win

Best Government since the wonderful Maggie era ??
 
It would be interesting to know

1. Who is voting Labour just to stop Tory getting in and vice versa

2. The others that are voting Tory or Labour is it a historic thing

3. Those hardened Tory supporters - what would you count as a success from the Tory government over the past ten years ?
 
chrisd said:
They couldn't possibly adversely affect more people than the Labour's manifesto promises to.
Click to expand...

Are they ? So these proposed tax increases will affect more than the cuts we have had and no doubt will continue to have ? Are there that many earning over £80k a year ?

They dont need to highlight the successes as you and I are still in work, something that will quickly change if Labour win

Best Government since the wonderful Maggie era ??
Click to expand...

Why will i be out of work under Labour ?

My company has already had multiple rounds of redundancies under the Tories.

If they are the best then im sure you will highlight the successes. And Thatcher ? Is that a deliberate wind up.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Are they ? So these proposed tax increases will affect more than the cuts we have had and no doubt will continue to have ? Are there that many earning over £80k a year ?
Click to expand...

Why are you still talking about people earning over £80k when that figure has been shown to be a lie several times?

There are just under 5 million self employed people in the UK and close to 25 million married people so there's close to 30 million people that could be affected by Labour's tax rises.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Why are you still talking about people earning over £80k when that figure has been shown to be a lie several times?

There are just under 5 million self employed people in the UK and close to 25 million married people so there's close to 30 million people that could be affected by Labour's tax rises.
Click to expand...

So that’s £250 a year that a married couple will lose on tax relief - wow a whole £250 a year

And it’s not every married couple that can apply for it so the 25 mil is prob a little off

And yep self employed people will have to pay more on dividend tax
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Just lots of cuts affecting millions more ?



Did they concentrate on their succesfull past ten years

I wonder why they aren’t using the past ten years in their election campaign - highlight all those promises they have kept from previous campaigns ?
Click to expand...
what like the imigration targets so close to the rights heart... :ROFLMAO:

independent.co.uk/voices/campaigns/dropthetarget/net-migration-pledge-broken-conservatives-theresa-may-migration-eu-international-a7729811.html
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It would be interesting to know

1. Who is voting Labour just to stop Tory getting in and vice versa

2. The others that are voting Tory or Labour is it a historic thing

3. Those hardened Tory supporters - what would you count as a success from the Tory government over the past ten years ?
Click to expand...
1) Would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote for Corbyns Labour so yes, will vote Conservative but not just to kerp labour out but necause theyre the current best choice.
2) Not historic, I have voted Labour, Liberal and Tory.
3) Reducing the defecit created by labour, giving us the chance to leave the EU, Creating a strong economy with almost record employment levels, reducing the size of the state, attracting huge inward investment into the UK, keeping the excesses of union power under control, standing firm against international terrorism, maintaining first class security systems, not allowing spending on the NHS to fall behind inflation, getting a large number off state benefits and into work.
Thats enough to be going on with and before you start calling me an uncaring Tory, you asked for this.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So that’s £250 a year that a married couple will lose on tax relief - wow a whole £250 a year

And it’s not every married couple that can apply for it so the 25 mil is prob a little off

And yep self employed people will have to pay more on dividend tax
Click to expand...
But they will lose it and its the worst off that it will hit the hardest. You cant use that arguement against people under £80k not paying more tax. If it had been Boris saying it you would be calling him a LIAR!
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So that’s £250 a year that a married couple will lose on tax relief - wow a whole £250 a year

And it’s not every married couple that can apply for it so the 25 mil is prob a little off

And yep self employed people will have to pay more on dividend tax
Click to expand...

Are you Jeremy Corbyn in disguise, that was pretty much his response. Or maybe you're Boris in disguise as you seem so happy to throw proven lies around.

The £80k figure is as much of a lie as the £350 million on the side of the bus or the Tories 40 new hospitals and yet you're still happy to use it. I assume that means that we won't hear any criticism from you about Boris or Tory lies from now on because that would make you a hypocrite.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top