AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

[ColchesterFC]

So a company that makes £50k profit is asked to pay £3k - so they make £47k profit instead whilst public improve - that seems a good trade off to me ?

The point is that they're lying about only the top 5% paying more tax. Why aren't they proposing to make everyone who earns £50k pay an extra £3k in tax? Because they know it would cost them votes. And in most cases the additional cost will be passed on to customers which will then hit the poorer in society more than the well off.

 

[chrisd]

You can because they are too busy doing the more hardened crimes now ?

Tories cut the budget to the police and that’s what happens when the police station goes



Right ..?

If closing police stations cuts anti social behaviour and shoplifting then that's a positive thing ?

 

[PNWokingham]

But aren’t all these extra taxes aimed to increase spending into areas like the NHS and Emergency services - two big areas that have suffered under the past ten years ?

For all the talk of austerity these companies have managed to gain massive profits but tax bill for a good number has stayed very small

Under the Tories i suspect a good number of businesses have flourished, profits on the up but there are millions more using food banks , on zero hour contracts , renting etc if companies actually looked to keep prices low for the many then they wouldn’t potentially need a tax increase

Phil - i am fully in favour of stopping all the international tax avoidance through maipulation of costs, licences, services etc to low tax economies. Tax should be paid where it is "genuinly earned" but it is a global problem and needs a global solution - but i am very much in favour of one - same for online only business versus the high strett - but very difficult to do - they all need cross border and cross party talks to work it out.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If closing police stations cuts anti social behaviour and shoplifting then that's a positive thing ?

Yes it’s wonderful that our Police Station was closed and crime has risen overall but shoplifting has dropped - I guess that’s down to the amount of shops closed in the last ten years , cafes now , hard to shoplift coffee ?

 

[ColchesterFC]

if companies actually looked to keep prices low for the many then they wouldn’t potentially need a tax increase

So your solution to companies not keeping prices low is to tax them more which will then almost certainly lead to higher prices when companies pass on the added costs to consumers.

 

[Beezerk]

Does anyone know if Jezza has accepted the offer from Radio 5 to appear on their breakfast show yet?
Apparently he's the only leader not to take questions on the show...

 

[harpo_72]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...economic-agenda-would-lead-calamity-many-not/

Maybe i should sue Charles Dunstone for the same plagiarism you accused me of earlier - as it looks very similar to my comments. Again, a logical business analysis of the ruinous policies proposed by Labour - coming from a successful entrepreuner who has voted Labour and Tory in the past

Do you know who owns the telegraph ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So your solution to companies not keeping prices low is to tax them more which will then almost certainly lead to higher prices when companies pass on the added costs to consumers.

Not my solution

I believe more should be done in regards All the tax avoidance by huge multinational companies

Believe self employed and small companies should get taxed at the same amount in relation to their earnings as employed people

 

[PNWokingham]

Do you know who owns the telegraph ?

you really are a special case. This is written by Charles Dunstone - he is a business owner not a journalist - it is not an article referencing other people's views and putting a slant on it and it could have been printed in any paper for all i care - like what i wrote, it is his views. They mirror my own views

 

[SocketRocket]

Do you know who owns the telegraph ?

Wells Fargo?

 

[harpo_72]

you really are a special case. This is written by Charles Dunstone - he is a business owner not a journalist - it is not an article referencing other people's views and putting a slant on it and it could have been printed in any paper for all i care - like what i wrote, it is his views. They mirror my own views

Do you know what editors do ?

 

[harpo_72]

Wells Fargo?

Don’t think he did ... just the offices connected

 

[chrisd]

Believe self employed and small companies should get taxed at the same amount in relation to their earnings as employed people

It's a bit unfair that someone taking (sometimes) a huge risk to start a business and employ others should pay the same tax as someone who takes no risk whatsoever.

 

[drdel]

Same could be said for Brexit and the affect of labour is pure speculation... what was the phrase ??
Oh yeah project fear.

I just don't understand why you are so intent on degrading those who express an opinion contrary to your own. There are fundamental differences in how a Brexit future may evolve than the policies that Labour has stated they wish to follow. My post explained the obvious evidence from the world of international business, the successful of which will not hang around if Labour treads the wrong path. Business have no emotion and will quickly change investment and location faced with an adverse set of policies in the UK - its primarily a question of confidence and it is clear that Labour does not enjoy the confidence of international businesses or indeed the investment community.

Business and nations economies run in cycles and it Labour to get the chance to enact their plans after a maximum of 3 years a down slide will transpire by which time there will be little confidence to fall back on and debt limits will inhibit borrowing.

I think you need to be very careful what you wish for they'll ( the London Labour elite) screw you and your kids/family.

 

[PNWokingham]

Do you know what editors do ?

go troll someone else

 

[Wolf]

Interesting slant on the recently Labour/Mirror release of the young lad asleep on a floor in hospital from an actual nurse at the hospital in question.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Boys , play nicely now ?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Under 30's Question Time got a bit rowdy, good to see young folk passionate about politics.
Farage got pretty well laughed at every time he spoke.
Swinson was her usual awful self, the others did OK with the Green and Plaid guys probably most impressive.

 

[ger147]

It's a bit unfair that someone taking (sometimes) a huge risk to start a business and employ others should pay the same tax as someone who takes no risk whatsoever.

The self-employed should not be taxed at the same level otherwise they would be worse off than their employed colleagues. They have additional costs to cover i.e. no sick pay, no holiday pay, no pension provision etc. and that has always been recognised thru the tax system, altho the gap is getting narrower and narrower each year to the point where it is no longer worthwhile being self-employed for many as they are now worse off that they would be if they were employed, and not having those smaller companies, self-employed contingent resources etc. will IMO be very bad for the economy moving forward.

 

[SocketRocket]

But aren’t all these extra taxes aimed to increase spending into areas like the NHS and Emergency services - two big areas that have suffered under the past ten years ?

For all the talk of austerity these companies have managed to gain massive profits but tax bill for a good number has stayed very small

Under the Tories i suspect a good number of businesses have flourished, profits on the up but there are millions more using food banks , on zero hour contracts , renting etc if companies actually looked to keep prices low for the many then they wouldn’t potentially need a tax increase

You dont seem to have a very good grasp on how business works and how good it is for working people. It goes without saying that if people don't start and maintain businesses then most people won't have jobs and won't be paying tax, the amount of tax paid and the added value is much more than corporation tax, its also the large national insurance payments the employer makes for each employee, more infact than the employee make themselves. If it wasn't for the employer the employee wouldn't be paying tax which ultimately comes from the sales revinue the company makes. Profits dont just get divided out to greedy bosses, much is ploughed back into the company to expand and create or secure jobs. When people jump on the bandwagon saying big business dont pay a fair share of tax they are not trying to understand the whole picture. There are indeed some dodgy businesses just like there are some dodgy wasters who never do a days work but live off the state. We really need business people to create wealth, you cant redistribute it unless you earn it first. Also the state earns nothing, it is a service and although its employees provide services to the community they do not earn wealth, they pay tax but only from the tax non state workers and business have taken from them. State expansion needs keeping tightly under control.
All in my opinion of course.