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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Old Skier said:
Laugh as much as you like, it's also fact.
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So you’re happy for the tories to keep cutting so long as we blame Labour if and when they get in for not reversing them? I’m genuinely puzzled.
 
JamesR said:
If we assume the U.K. is basically a two party state, I imagine it’s thought that there is no other option for the working classes or immigrants.
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Not all immigrants are poor or working class.
 
Hobbit said:
Sorry, I missed the important bit, i.e. "if I was being flippant..."

I'm currently suffering from "electile dysfunction." I don't seem to be able to get really bothered by this election.
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im much more frustrated by it. It appears pointless, weak and overly expensive. I can only mourn the fact that we’ve endured years of austerity, food banks, poverty, unnecessary deaths and almost criminal underfunding of crucial services, only to spunk every penny saved into Grayling-esque planning and unnecessary elections etc. Only to make us all worse off and make absolutely no significant difference to the general population. Sad.
 
pauldj42 said:
So you’re happy for the tories to keep cutting so long as we blame Labour if and when they get in for not reversing them? I’m genuinely puzzled.
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Where did you get that from, twist things to suit your agenda as much as you like, I'm just pointing out a fact that the Torys have history of reducing the armed forces and that Labour have never reversed the cuts. I'm not convinced the cuts were appropriate yet I presume you feel it was ok for Labour not to reverse them which suggest you think the cuts were appropriate.
 
bluewolf said:
Excellent point, well missed. The comment was aimed at the fact that there are extremes of opinion on both sides of this particular fence. SR couldn’t understand how anyone couldn’t share his opinion. I was pointing out that the other side probably can’t understand how he maintains his.
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I think you read past the sarcasm there, although if many of these posts aren't sarcastic then it's worrying.
 
Old Skier said:
Where did you get that from, twist things to suit your agenda as much as you like, I'm just pointing out a fact that the Torys have history of reducing the armed forces and that Labour have never reversed the cuts. I'm not convinced the cuts were appropriate yet I presume you feel it was ok for Labour not to reverse them which suggest you think the cuts were appropriate.
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I’m not happy with any cuts to Armed Forces, just as I’d imagine you’re not, the difference is, I’m not writing off the next Labour Party prior to them getting in(whenever that maybe) based on the facts the tories have done nothing positive for Defence over the last 10yrs.
 
JamesR said:
If we assume the U.K. is basically a two party state, I imagine it’s thought that there is no other option for the working classes or immigrants.
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The Labour Party stopped being about the working class the moment Tony Blair became PM, and that was accentuated when Gordon Brown took over as he was more concerned with things outside the UK... funny thing is every “socialist” I know is richer than me, inevitably has a couple of houses and rent them out to immigrants!🤔
 
Fade and Die said:
The Labour Party stopped being about the working class the moment Tony Blair became PM, and that was accentuated when Gordon Brown took over as he was more concerned with things outside the UK... funny thing is every “socialist” I know is richer than me, inevitably has a couple of houses and rent them out to immigrants!🤔
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Which party stands for the poor and working classes then ?
 
Anyway let’s not focus just on jezza, don’t forget John McDonnell, who had this to say in 2003: “It’s about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA.”
 
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