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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Wouldn't it be great if people voted on what a party could offer in the future. And not based on what happened sometimes 4 decades ago. As the parties, world economy and society in general has changed massively since then. So to me I'm more interested in how a party operates in the reality of what's happening now and the challenges society now faces, not what happened when everyone drove Austin Allegros or Wham topped the charts.
 
You really do come over as immature and childish when someone disagrees with you, Ill try not to get sucked into it though.
This source should be more down your street:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...labour-would-back-remain-in-brexit-referendum
Again, Read the Article and stop just looking at the headline, the body clearly states he said that if a Conservative Government called a Referendum back in July when the article was written.
You’re calling me childish then producing links which make you look foolish or just accept Corbyn has never ever stated what you claimed!
 
General Sir Nick Carter this morning on the Andrew Marr show when asked about an EU says he’s never seen any proposals or policy documents on the subject.
This is the Senior British Soldier and he should know
 
Wouldn't it be great if people voted on what a party could offer in the future. And not based on what happened sometimes 4 decades ago. As the parties, world economy and society in general has changed massively since then. So to me I'm more interested in how a party operates in the reality of what's happening now and the challenges society now faces, not what happened when everyone drove Austin Allegros or Wham topped the charts.

Bang on. I worry what international partners/investors would think of a country run by Labour, A country which would decimate the 'City' and leave it open to Paris, Franfurt etc. One that could decide to 'nationalise' at a blink of an eye. Where wealth creation is a dirty theme, according to the 'rich' Labour elite and heads of the main Unions!. 'Defence' partnerships and security collaboration with people considered, by their own country, as a security risk. etc, etc.

Good luck with your future as a 'middle-class citizen. The poor will get state aid (good), the wealthy will get highly paid expertise to 'offshore' their wealth and those employed and saving will pay the bill!!
 
Bang on. I worry what international partners/investors would think of a country run by Labour, A country which would decimate the 'City' and leave it open to Paris, Franfurt etc. One that could decide to 'nationalise' at a blink of an eye. Where wealth creation is a dirty theme, according to the 'rich' Labour elite and heads of the main Unions!. 'Defence' partnerships and security collaboration with people considered, by their own country, as a security risk. etc, etc.

Good luck with your future as a 'middle-class citizen. The poor will get state aid (good), the wealthy will get highly paid expertise to 'offshore' their wealth and those employed and saving will pay the bill!!

For enough. One could argue that Brexit will do more damage to the City's standing as a hub of European finance. Also there is not much left to privatise as most of it has already been done so the vast majority of our vital services and infrastructure are under foreign ownership now with any profits being distributed to employees and shareholders of these companies. And I'm not overly convinced how much society and the users of these utilities and services benefits from a lot of privatisation as the business model seems to be to get people on board with offers then squeeze the pips out of them and do the the least possible under the terms of your contract. As profit rather than delivery of a quality service becomes the over riding concern. Note wrong with making profits as no one works for free, but questions should be asked about where this profit ends up. So the threat of nationalization is not a bad thing in my book.

And whilst I am pretty confident Corbyn won't be offering the Secretary of State for Defense to a member of ISIS if he gets to be PM, talking to unsavory characters in the past it is not a good look. But then again neither is strong links to Russian funding in the current political climate where Russian interference in elections has been proven. But at least we are both looking forwards, although possibly concentrating a tad on the faults of other parties to deflect from the lack of hope from the ones we would vote for ;)
 
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For enough. One could argue that Brexit will do more damage to the City's standing as a hub of European finance. Also there is not much left to privatise as most of it has already been done so the vast majority of our vital services and infrastructure are under foreign ownership now with any profits being distributed to employees and shareholders of these companies. And I'm not overly convinced how much society and the users of these utilities and services benefits from a lot of privatisation as the business model seems to be to get people on board with offers then squeeze the pips out of them and do the the least possible under the terms of your contract. As profit rather than delivery of a quality service becomes the over riding concern. Note wrong with making profits as no one works for free, but questions should be asked about where this profit ends up. So the threat of nationalization is not a bad thing in my book.

And whilst I am pretty confident Corbyn won't be offering the Secretary of State for Defense to a member of ISIS if he gets to be PM, talking to unsavory characters in the past it is not a good look. But then again neither is strong links to Russian funding in the current political climate where Russian interference in elections has been proven. But at least we are both looking forwards, although possibly concentrating a tad on the faults of other parties to deflect from the lack of hope from the ones we would vote for ;)

Absolutely bang on !
A brexit will impact the banking situation .. we already are seeing a migration to Luxembourg
As for privatisation, well that really hasn't been that successful for the consumer and the initial profit gain from the shares has been and gone. So a compulsory purchase back would not be a bad thing ... and I suppose the Tories could sell it again :LOL: .
I really worry that Boris will sell the NHS, the American system is not something I want.

Basically DrDel is using a typical tory tactic of project fear and making up scenarios to try and make it sound worse than our current offerings from the liar Boris.

But if Corbyn is too far then the Lib Dems are somewhere in the middle and probably more toward traditional Tory values... a government made up of Lib Labour may actually be the best option for the centrist.
 
Absolutely bang on !
A brexit will impact the banking situation .. we already are seeing a migration to Luxembourg
As for privatisation, well that really hasn't been that successful for the consumer and the initial profit gain from the shares has been and gone. So a compulsory purchase back would not be a bad thing ... and I suppose the Tories could sell it again :LOL: .
I really worry that Boris will sell the NHS, the American system is not something I want.

Basically DrDel is using a typical tory tactic of project fear and making up scenarios to try and make it sound worse than our current offerings from the liar Boris.

But if Corbyn is too far then the Lib Dems are somewhere in the middle and probably more toward traditional Tory values... a government made up of Lib Labour may actually be the best option for the centrist.

Whoops, you are a bit quick off the mark in your deduction and wrong- as an ex-economist I'm more a 'floater', not a Tory !! As Fragger said above its seems a just a choice of least worse option
 
Whoops, you are a bit quick off the mark in your deduction and wrong- as an ex-economist I'm more a 'floater', not a Tory !! As Fragger said above its seems a just a choice of least worse option

I would not call you a "floater " that is something else and used as an insult :).
Your posts are very Tory biased, but we could put that down to the media and you do come across as closed on Corbyn.
Where do you stand on Swinson and are you in area where there is a large majority ?
 
I would not call you a "floater " that is something else and used as an insult :).
Your posts are very Tory biased, but we could put that down to the media and you do come across as closed on Corbyn.
Where do you stand on Swinson and are you in area where there is a large majority ?

My personal domestic voting opinions are just that, personal. Perhaps my post's reflect that at this moment in time my views are influenced by the issue of Brexit and my views of the EU and the UK's future.
 
My personal domestic voting opinions are just that, personal. Perhaps my post's reflect that at this moment in time my views are influenced by the issue of Brexit and my views of the EU and the UK's future.
Which means your falling into the position I have stated ... the Brexit situation needs to be cleared up .. either way.
Posting about the outcome situation is pointless as is discussing what will occur if so and so get's into power until Brexit is cleared.
 
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