Age for seniors

[Arthur Wedge]

What about all the "other" people who do good work and work under stress? I can't imagine the crap that somebody at the tills at places to Asda have to put up with. Why are some people singled out for extra benefits? If some age group at the golf clubs get a "benefit".....like with seniors at some clubs.....that's unfair!!!!

Some jobs come with a lot of risk , some jobs save lives , some jobs made it safer for everyone , some jobs have people putting their lives on the line

Its ok for those types of jobs to be given a little reward because not many people step up to do that job

And no one in those jobs ask for any special treatment but they are given small amounts as a thank you

 

[Pin-seeker]

Some jobs come with a lot of risk , some jobs save lives , some jobs made it safer for everyone , some jobs have people putting their lives on the line

Its ok for those types of jobs to be given a little reward because not many people step up to do that job

And no one in those jobs ask for any special treatment but they are given small amounts as a thank you

Genuine question,do you post things like this on social media for likes & to make you look like a good person?

I’m genuinely intrigued.
It seems like a modern trend.

 

[GreiginFife]

Oh I agree,the ones you mention are doing a fantastic job.
And they are paid a decent wage,get more annual leave than most,get paid when off sick & get a decent pension.

All I’m saying is NHS workers aren’t half as hard done by as they & the media like to make out.

Just my opinion of course

Have you do a shift in an A&E department and see if you still feel like that.

Or man an Ambulance that can’t get to every call out and have to deal with an elderly patient that’s been lying on the floor for hours.

On second thoughts, with your apparent empathy levels, maybe best you don’t.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Have you do a shift in an A&E department and see if you still feel like that.

Or man an Ambulance that can’t get to every call out and have to deal with an elderly patient that’s been lying on the floor for hours.

On second thoughts, with your apparent empathy levels, maybe best you don’t.

They get paid well & get treated fairly for the job they do imo.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Shall we get back to the original thread?

 

[GreiginFife]

They get paid well & get treated fairly for the job they do imo.

Paid well? What do you class as paid well?

What do you class as fair treatment? Holidays and sick pay? Yeah, most of the working population get those. Pension? Yeah they get a decent one but then so does an MP or any other public servant.

I don’t see many others do what many (not all) NHS nurses, especially, do.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Paid well? What do you class as paid well?

What do you class as fair treatment? Holidays and sick pay? Yeah, most of the working population get those. Pension? Yeah they get a decent one but then so does an MP or any other public servant.

I don’t see many others do what many (not all) NHS nurses, especially, do.

I’ll bow out,you clearly aren’t clued up.
Agree to disagree and let the thread get back to it’s original points

 

[GreiginFife]

I’ll bow out,you clearly aren’t clued up.
Agree to disagree and let the thread get back to it’s original points

Arrogance as well. You are a charmer.
Good evening.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Arrogance as well. You are a charmer.
Good evening.

Good evening to you sir

 

[doublebogey7]

Yes, there are seniors rates at several clubs near me. I used to be a member of a club, but prefer the freedom of choosing where to play, when it suits.

Then I'll be happy to answer your original question now I have the facts. The club in question has made a business decision as that is what businesses do, they will only find out if it was a crazy decision at the end of the year, but I doubt very much that it will prove to have been so.

 

[Pants]

Actually, I just looked again. It's £140 now. For a round of golf! I've played both courses in the past. They're nice, but not worth that much. Not sure how these courses that charge that sort of rate justify it. Years ago, we looked to join there as it was local and we knew a few members. So we turned up one Sunday and straight away I saw my MD at the time in the bar. "Where you parked?" he asked. When I told him, he drew a breath and said "oooh, you shouldn't really park there on a Sunday, and to be honest your wife shouldn't be in the bar". When he then chucked in that the joining fee (this is nearly 30 years ago) was £1,500 and there was a two year wait for full membership, we quickly decided it wasn't for us.

I play at Sundridge Park several times a year, fortunately as a member's guest. I think that your nearly 30 year memory of parking and ladies is at least 25 years out of date. Yes, they do still have a joining fee and a waiting list but, as you seem to know the club, you will know the reason why. The visitor's green fee is higher in the mornings so members and their guests can get on the course, but cheaper at other times.

I'm guessing you are complaining about MyTime at High Elms or even Royal Magpie Hall. Tbh, I cannot see why anyone at or over retirement age should get a small discount. Your 64 year old friend should get over it and just enjoy the course. I've often said that High Elms, if it were a private members club instead of a municipal, would be one of the best courses in the area. Great layout.

Just for context, I was a member there for a couple of years and I am good friends with a lady who worked in the Pro shop until she recently retired.

18 Holes​

18 Holes / High Elms Golf Course

8:59 - 9:06
Fri, March 13, 2026
4 spaces available

Max Capacity: 4

• Adult
  £36.50
  
  Senior 67yrs+
  £27.50
  
  Junior 11-15yrs
  £12.50
  
  Child 4-10yrs
  £12.50
  
  Infant 1-3yrs
  £12.50
  
  Under 1yrs
  £12.50
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[irip]

Maybe the way to look at it is that your friend got cheap golf for a few years the Lucky Devil.

If my rent was £100 a month for a 6 bedroom house and the Landlord put the price up would you say I was lucky to get it so cheap for so long or the Landlord was wrong to increase it?

 

[The Squirrel]

And just to lob another grenade into the thread... I can see no good reason that those over a certain age or who are retired should get a discount on golf fees, membership or most other products or services. They certainly shouldn't expect one.
Especially golf membership as they're likely to be far heavier users of the facilities, having the time to do so; so if fees essentially cover running costs, upkeep and repair of everything at the club, they're ON AVERAGE causing more wear and tear than someone of working age, simply by heavier use.

Concessions are generally given to recognise that some groups ON AVERAGE will be significantly less well off (accepting that there will of course most certainly be examples of individuals who do not follow the average) . Students, the unemployed, disabled, 18-25s, whatever. These are, in the end, subsidised by everyone else paying slightly more. Some discounts based on being a member of these groups are reasonable and generally accepted as a way of trying to be inclusive to those less fortunate (fair enough).
Since the AVERAGE retired persion has a higher income than the AVERAGE person of working age, and has done for many years now, there is no good reason at all for offering a discount (or the government providing a service free when others pay) purely based on age or retirement. Discounts for everyone over a certain age are, essentially a regressive transfer of money from the poorer to the wealthier. If you wish to offer a discount to less well off people then some other criteria need to be used, not purely age.

Pensioner incomes 'outstrip those of working families'

Pensioner households are £20 a week better off on average than those of working age, a report says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hobbit]

They get paid well & get treated fairly for the job they do imo.

When it comes to the NHS, I can give you chapter & verse of the old Whitley Council pay rates, terms & conditions. Why pensions WERE excellent, why their sick pay WAS excellent and why they have, or had, x amount of holidays.

Trust terms and conditions are very different now than what people signed up to 30 years ago. There’s a reason so many are leaving the NHS.

 

[PaulMdj]

I fully agree there should only be price reductions for certain younger categories and the GM should have some leeway for certain individual cases, however, a lot of these Pensioner/Senior discounts are historical to a time when pensions didn’t give a life of luxury in retirement. Look at the fuss when the Winter Fuel Allowance of £300.00 was stopped going automatically to all of them.

Some Golf clubs give discounts to “Offshore Workers” so long as they prove they are away from home for at least 6 months of the year, yet when they are home they fit more Golf in to that 6 months than joe average can play in 12.

Good luck to anyone getting a discount whether you agree with it or not, sometimes it’s just sour grapes.

 

[AlinKent]

Thank you for all the input, genuinely. I appreciate that very few clubs offer discounts for seniors, but that's partly why we have played there for several years. The main objection was how they increased the seniors age from 60 to 67 overnight, when the normal age for a senior at the majority of golf clubs is generally around the 60 mark. While the reduced rates scenario may not apply at your club, imagine if they suddenly bumped up the qualifying age for senior competitions etc. by seven years. That would immediately exclude many who had previously qualified to play in those events, and that seems harsh to me, when the sport acknowledges that 60, even 55 at some courses, is the senior age requirement. Anyway, enough said. Thanks again for you input.

 

[The Squirrel]

Thank you for all the input, genuinely. I appreciate that very few clubs offer discounts for seniors, but that's partly why we have played there for several years. The main objection was how they increased the seniors age from 60 to 67 overnight, when the normal age for a senior at the majority of golf clubs is generally around the 60 mark. While the reduced rates scenario may not apply at your club, imagine if they suddenly bumped up the qualifying age for senior competitions etc. by seven years. That would immediately exclude many who had previously qualified to play in those events, and that seems harsh to me, when the sport acknowledges that 60, even 55 at some courses, is the senior age requirement. Anyway, enough said. Thanks again for you input.

So after four solid pages of people pointing out that they’re different, you’re still conflating qualifying age for who’s allowed to play senior comps (an entirely different and basically unrelated issue) with a green fee price increase .

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Thank you for all the input, genuinely. I appreciate that very few clubs offer discounts for seniors, but that's partly why we have played there for several years. The main objection was how they increased the seniors age from 60 to 67 overnight, when the normal age for a senior at the majority of golf clubs is generally around the 60 mark. While the reduced rates scenario may not apply at your club, imagine if they suddenly bumped up the qualifying age for senior competitions etc. by seven years. That would immediately exclude many who had previously qualified to play in those events, and that seems harsh to me, when the sport acknowledges that 60, even 55 at some courses, is the senior age requirement. Anyway, enough said. Thanks again for you input.

Competition entry is significantly different to reduced membership rates

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

automatically to all of them.

Some Golf clubs give discounts to “Offshore Workers” so long as they prove they are away from home for at least 6 months of the year, yet when they are home they fit more Golf in to that 6 months than joe average can play in 12.

That’s similar to one of the benefits at my new place that I wasn’t even aware of until I received my welcome pack. I don’t get a discount or special rates but If I have to deploy anywhere for 3months+, the club will place my membership payments on hold at no additional charge. All I have to do is provide the dates I’ll be out of the country for and they’ll put a hold on payments and restart them the date I get back.

Wasn’t even a consideration for me I wanna to pay regardless but thought it was a nice touch when it came in the welcome pack with the diary and bag tag

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Thank you for all the input, genuinely. I appreciate that very few clubs offer discounts for seniors, but that's partly why we have played there for several years. The main objection was how they increased the seniors age from 60 to 67 overnight, when the normal age for a senior at the majority of golf clubs is generally around the 60 mark. While the reduced rates scenario may not apply at your club, imagine if they suddenly bumped up the qualifying age for senior competitions etc. by seven years. That would immediately exclude many who had previously qualified to play in those events, and that seems harsh to me, when the sport acknowledges that 60, even 55 at some courses, is the senior age requirement. Anyway, enough said. Thanks again for you input.

Think you need to re-read what the clubs stated and that entry to senior companies nothing to do with what they’re telling you to pay.