Against the spirit of the game?

[ScienceBoy]

she saw a golden opportunity to claim the match.

If a golfer let it slide and lost how would they feel? How would the person who won then feel?

There is no right way other than how the rules lay it out.

Doesn't matter, if the putt wasn't conceded it wasn't conceded.

If this is allowed to happen then the game as we know it will cease to exist, all rules can be ignored and scores become meaningless.

 

[rosecott]

Pathetic sportsmanship, she should be ashamed of herself. She waited quite some time before stating she hadn't conceded the putt. If she had turned and walked to the next tee that would have been the end of the matter and they carry on down the 20th but as stated by Sports fanatic, she saw a golden opportunity to claim the match.

If you read the factual reports, you will see that Shepherd had closed her eyes as she didn't want to see the ball dropping since that meant she had lost. When she didn't hear the ball drop, she opened her eyes just in time to see Moon dragging the ball away. She wanted to concede but the rules official stepped in to correctly state that Moon was penalised under 18-2 and a concession could not be retrospective.

 

[patricks148]

If you read the factual reports, you will see that Shepherd had closed her eyes as she didn't want to see the ball dropping since that meant she had lost. When she didn't hear the ball drop, she opened her eyes just in time to see Moon dragging the ball away. She wanted to concede but the rules official stepped in to correctly state that Moon was penalised under 18-2 and a concession could not be retrospective.

maybe but she also says i didn't concede that if she had said nothing and had just walked off nothing would have been said by the ref, the only reason the ref was involved was due to this statement

 

[garyinderry]

The girl was a little quick to rake the ball back but you can actually see the cogs working due to that camera right behind Erica. She calculates very quickly that she could nick the win by saying I didn't concede.

Very unsporting and she will probably be a bit embarrassed looking back.

I would say it was a rash decision due to the adrenaline pumping in her body knowing the game on was the line over that short putt which for all the world she thought the other girl would hole.

Bit silly on both their parts. If you are not even going to watch the putt you shouldn't really go calling out that you don't concede the next one. The other girl will learn not to be so rash.

 

[hovis]

If you read the factual reports, you will see that Shepherd had closed her eyes as she didn't want to see the ball dropping since that meant she had lost. When she didn't hear the ball drop, she opened her eyes just in time to see Moon dragging the ball away. She wanted to concede but the rules official stepped in to correctly state that Moon was penalised under 18-2 and a concession could not be retrospective.

not correct. she said after moon dragged back the ball "i didn't concede that put" the rules offical came after to clear things up. there's been plenty of rider cup matches where the player just walks off the green thus indicating they're conceding the putt.

she knew exactly what she was doing, saw a golden opportunity and took it. personally i think it's very poor.

 

[Hobbit]

Rookie mistake. Don't ever assume a concession till you hear the words. Equally, being blunt, its a bit arrogant to drag the ball back before the opponent concedes.

Spirit of the game? That includes playing by the rules. Assuming a concession is wrong. At least glance at your opponent and see if the concession is coming... if not, tap it in.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The putt wasn't given so why did she drag it back and then have another go ? It's all within the rules - a bit of arrogance to believe it was given without any confirmation

 

[guest100718]

The putt wasn't given so why did she drag it back and then have another go ? It's all within the rules - a bit of arrogance to believe it was given without any confirmation

Arrogance? Hardly.

Stupidity, for sure.
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[hovis]

The putt wasn't given so why did she drag it back and then have another go ? It's all within the rules - a bit of arrogance to believe it was given without any confirmation

i dont think it was arrogance. i think it was complete stupidity and lack of focus on what had happened. I've missed a putt for a fiver and picked the ball straight up. so i can only imagine what a junior wannabe pro golfer is thinking at that moment. she was probably distracted by the grief of missing that put. a hard way to learn a lesson.

 

[garyinderry]

They may be young but there are good golfers. I can't imagine many of them make their opponent putt out from a foot or foot and a half.

One silly player assumed if would be given. The other sized the opportunity to take the hole. You can actually see the second the penny drops and she makes the call.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I don't think anyone is questioning the rules. The thread is titled 'Against the spirit of the game' and to claim the match under such circumstances is quite clearly not in the spirit of the game IMHO.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is the part in the rules that define etiquette

"Golf is played, for the most part, without the supervision of a referee or umpire. The game relies on the integrity of the individual to show consideration for other players and to abide by the Rules. All players should conduct themselves in a disciplined manner, demonstrating courtesy and sportsmanship at all times, irrespective of how competitive they may be. This is the spirit of the game of golf."

"Abide by the rules" clearly is a big part of spirit of the game

 

[shortgame]

I don't think anyone is questioning the rules. The thread is titled 'Against the spirit of the game' and to claim the match under such circumstances is quite clearly not in the spirit of the game IMHO.

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[hovis]

I don't think anyone is questioning the rules. The thread is titled 'Against the spirit of the game' and to claim the match under such circumstances is quite clearly not in the spirit of the game IMHO.

i agree. life isn't always as black and white as "some" think it is

 

[Gopher]

She didn't claim the match...

Immediately after the putt the rules official told her that it was a penalty and that her opponent had won.

That's not claiming the match. Sorry, but you never touch the putt until your opponent has clearly said "THAT'S GOOD"

She was wrong.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

She didn't claim the match...

Immediately after the putt the rules official told her that it was a penalty and that her opponent had won.

That's not claiming the match. Sorry, but you never touch the putt until your opponent has clearly said "THAT'S GOOD"

She was wrong.

It is crystal clear to me. Moon misses the putt, Shepherd watches her pick the ball up then says she didn't concede the putt. Is she within the rules? Yes. Is she within the spirit of the game? No. If she hadn't said anything the ref wouldn't have got involved, it would have been considered a concession.

 

[Hobbit]

I don't think anyone is questioning the rules. The thread is titled 'Against the spirit of the game' and to claim the match under such circumstances is quite clearly not in the spirit of the game IMHO.

Is it within the spirit of the game to claim a consession before it's given?

 

[Gopher]

It is crystal clear to me. Moon misses the putt, Shepherd watches her pick the ball up then says she didn't concede the putt. Is she within the rules? Yes. Is she within the spirit of the game? No. If she hadn't said anything the ref wouldn't have got involved, it would have been considered a concession.

Rule #1 of matchplay - NEVER assume your putt is conceded until your opponent says so.

Sorry, you don't, never do, never ever, bad etiquette to assume it's conceded. She deserved to be penalised.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Harsh but fair!
She effectively gave herself the putt, as if assuming it would be given. As such I see nothing wrong with the outcome.

 

[Owen_Thomas_14]

They are both there to win. Winning ugly or out playing your opponent 10&8 doesn't really matter! Progressing to the final is both their priorities so nothing wrong with what she done