richy
Journeyman Pro
I already knew that 
Adjustibility ....Ya right!!!!!!
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CannyFifer
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Oh well, another wasted post by meI already knew that
going to give up posting me thinks.
bobmac
Major Champion
Actually, it was more simple than that.
Kid2 was wondering if the club should be flat on the grass at address or slightly toe up.
I just confirmed he was right in thinking the toe should be a little off the ground at address.
Kid2 was wondering if the club should be flat on the grass at address or slightly toe up.
I just confirmed he was right in thinking the toe should be a little off the ground at address.
richy
Journeyman Pro
I didnt know that however.
Ignore my ignorance but what kind of effect will that make?
Ignore my ignorance but what kind of effect will that make?
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CannyFifer
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appologies, in a mood tonight, forget it
bobmac
Major Champion
The shaft of the club bends downwards slightly into impact. If the clubhead is flat on the floor at address, this will cause the toe of the club to hit the ground first, possibly twisting the face open at impact.
RGDave
Money List Winner
What, for everyone? 100% of the time?
As I'm working on NOT doing this, I beg to differ.
bobmac
Major Champion
The toe would be pointing skyward if the golfer was standing up straight.
As he or she is bending over at address, the face should be slightly toe down or "hooded"
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CannyFifer
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wouldnt the grip be very low Bob?
kid2
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SSSHHHHH. Don't tell him
If only you could see me laughing.....
kid2
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Just to argue another point Ethan and dont take tis the wrong way as i have plenty of technology in my Irons but ....What would players do to manipulate the face of there clubs at address if this technology wasnt available to them..........
Ethan
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What they have been doing for years. Either twist the clubface in a vice, like Vijay does, or regrip to open it a bit.
Point is that these adjustments are not just to correct a fundamental swing flaw, they cn be used to suit legitimate preferences too.
RGDave
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I need adjustable clubs.
I've just hit 75 pushes from 90 balls.
My pro reckons I'm cutting across the ball - I don't understand the maths if a 7 iron lands 20 yards right of the 150 marker and doesn't deviate in the air even 1 yard.....
I've just hit 75 pushes from 90 balls.
My pro reckons I'm cutting across the ball - I don't understand the maths
if a 7 iron lands 20 yards right of the 150 marker and doesn't deviate in the air even 1 yard.....
Ethan
Money List Winner
I need adjustable clubs.
I've just hit 75 pushes from 90 balls.
My pro reckons I'm cutting across the ball - I don't understand the maths
Modern thinking is that the clubface plays a bigger part than swingpath, so in your case that means you are leaving the clubface open.
The fix depends on the reason why and could involve grip, ball position or the way you are turning (or not turning).
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
But surely if the clubface was open and the swingpath was striaght towards the target then the ball would curve to the right as well as start right.
From what I understand of it, straight right should mean an open face by the same amount that the swingpath is in to out.
From what I understand of it, straight right should mean an open face by the same amount that the swingpath is in to out.
User 105
Journeyman Pro
When my pro changed my driver swing I started doing this, he wanted more upper body rotation in my back swing.
So after he got me doing a fuller rotation I started doing this for a while as I wasn't rotating my upper body through the swing enough before contact, so my body was still facing right at impact. And thus just fired it straight right, no fade\slice.
So after he got me doing a fuller rotation I started doing this for a while as I wasn't rotating my upper body through the swing enough before contact, so my body was still facing right at impact. And thus just fired it straight right, no fade\slice.
Ethan
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You would think so, and a straight push is the more usual explanation, but the post said that he cut across the ball, which usually means out to in, the opposite direction to a push.
The ball doesn't move as much in the air as it used to, so some shots that would have been slices in the past with old equipment and balls are pushes now with modern equipment and balls.
Also, the teaching method used to be that swingpath had the biggest influence, but slo-mo photography has shown the opposite, and the teaching manuals have changed. Clubface alignment is the biggest factor.
RGDave
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It's a grip issue.....sadly, after 3 years playing with the same grip, I've got a new Pro and he wants it changed.
RGDave
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That's certainly what I thought. A hit straight/direct right that doesn't deviate needs to be x degrees from the inside and the same x degrees open. x = x in this case.
I'm pleased to find some "push" in my path, but I'm still struggling to get the face square to target. If I did, I'd hit a draw.
Maybe my pro meant "cutting across it" to mean "leaving it open".....which is certainly true.
