Adjustibility ....Ya right!!!!!!

kid2

Money List Winner
Joined
Feb 1, 2009
Messages
5,173
Location
Ireland
Visit site
I spent a couple of ours at the range tonight with just my irons and my new address tips and what i witnessed unfolding in front of me made me chuckle to myself first of all but then question the power of marketing......

I watched in awe as the chap in the bay alonside me *&cked and blinded and huffed and chuffed because his recent TM R9 wasnt doing what it said on the tin presumably.... :D :D

Everytime he hit a shot with it, it was out with the wrench and a quick change to the ball flight or so he thought...He had a full bag of clubs yet he still wouldnt take an iron out and practice with it.....Why are these clubs sold to people that havent sound fundementals.......

This went on for the best part of 50 mins all the while him not realising that it was just bad technique that was causing his wayward shots.......
Now im no Pro but even i could tell that his swing wasnt exactly an Ernie Els copy.....
He had more body movement than bambi on ice. He then trundled off in temper to play 9 holes.

It would have been more in his line to get a lesson or 2 instead of having the latest high tech gear.


Why do people buy these things.Is it just me or is anyone else in agreement....I dont use a driver but if i ever do it certainly wont be adjustable....
 
Welcome to my world.
I have spent my whole golfing life watching people making fundamental mistakes.
Poor posture, bad grip, wrong swing path, no weight transfer etc etc which makes their life and their families presumably, miserable.
But they search the shops looking to spend lots of money on that club that will cure their problems.
Some people will never have lessons, get fed up with golf and give up. :(
Others will admit they might need a bit of help and invest £15/£20 and see what happens.
Kid2, I'm chuffed to bits you're hitting it better and the next time I'm over your way, I'll take you up on that offer to get me drunk. :D
 
No bother Bob.....There's plenty of the black stuff over here :D :D.....By the way the Toe up really did the trick for me its odd that such a small adjustment can have such a big difference......

But i have to agree with you...These new drivers are just a keeping up with the jones' issue if you ask me......

I know there are people that cant or wont take the time to straighten a slice or a hook but i dont think that 300 notes of the latest adjustibility is going to cure that.
 
Its why manufacturers keep manufacturing......cos peeps want hope for a quick fix.

I've lost my Draw with my Driver, but not with all my irons, but I know its me & not the club !
 
I actually looked at adjustability slightly different when I got my R9.

I used to have a bit of a slice with my driver and I have had, and continue to have lessons.

I originally started with the club as closed as possible to minimize the slice. As I've had lessons and my swing has improved I've gradually moved the setting to a more neutral face.

So it's probably saved me a bit of money in changing drivers as my swing changed.

I think if you're not going to bother with lessons and try to improve and get rid of you're fundamental swing flaws then just buy a driver with a closed face and stick with it.

Even if you take away the adjustability part of the R9 it's still a very good driver in it's own right.
 
Were you at my driving range last night? Sounds like me! :D

I've been pushing my shots (alot!) the last couple of weeks (mainly with longer irons and woods) and when my mate invited me to the range last night, I gladly accepted his invitation to see if I could sort it out.

Shorter irons (7 and below) were fine. Longer irons, despite awesome ball striking were still slicing like a good loaf of Hovis save for a couple of straight shots. I managed to slow my swing and swing "through" rather than "round" the ball, I think I was cutting round it trying to straighten it up, but a more linear swing through seemed to sort it and my 3 iron shots (officially my new favourite club) were finally straight. Problem #1 solved.

I whipped out the big dog, as that's where I'd been having the most trouble. Took a couple of swings and it was still heading right.

I got the two guys I was with to film my swing on their iPhone to see if I could identify my problem. One filmed from the side and one filmed from behind me.

Watched the video back and I instantly knew the problem. Too much weight on the balls of my feet (my heels were literally off the floor) and the motion in my body through my swing was ridiculous. I was rocking like a babie's cradle back and forth! No stability whatsoever. I was shocked!

So, I re-addressed the ball, slowed down my back swing to help my stability and hey presto a straighter ball. Still a slight fade, but that's the way I naturally shape the ball, always have.

Last thing I did was bring the ball back in my stance slightly. It was right on my front foot before. Bringing it back 6 inches seemed to help it even more. I was even able to pop some controlled draw on the ball.

Just goes to show how much analysing and seeing your own swing helps cut out the errors. Now I just need to remember it for next time I'm on the course! :D
 
Folk that have the money to spend will always think they can get a quick fix by buying 1 of these adjustable clubs, rather than taking the time to fix their own problems.

I recently purchased the new Mizuno MP630 Driver which has weights I can adjust. Although it's a nice thing to play around with it's not the main reason I bought the club (it just looks and sounds gorgeous!!)

Companies will market whatever way they can to move products, if folk have the money they will spend it!
 
Range rage. :o

I'm annoyed by almost everything that goes on at the range. It's a wonder I can get any work done. I do (thankfully) but I try hard to avoid the various types of range numpty that gets my goat.

We have about 20 bays and I was *miles" away from the action the other day practising with a towel under my left arm.

Some bloke turns up, walks past 10 (?) bays and pops himself two away from me, that's about 15-20 foot in front of me.

Every shot = complete crap. I can live with this (we're all allowed to be rubbish) but at the end of the swing, he lets the club fall in poseur fashion out of his grip and catches it whilst admiring his shots.....admiring what? 30 yard slices, 50 yard shanks, fatted PWs nowhere near the pitching net......Barclays!!!!
 
Someone has probably told him to hold the pose. It might be the best bit of his game. That, and mending pitch marks or something.

I went down the range on Saturday. Within about 10 minutes the village idiot turned up in the bay next to mine. Clearly couldn't play, and tried to leather everything as hard as possible. Trouble is, his driver went 130 yards tops.

He talked continuously to every one else, and just wouldn't shut up. Really regretted not having my ipod with me. £6.50 straight down the drain. Couldn't wait to leave.
 
The thing with adjustable clubs is that unless you have a repeatable swing, and when I say repeatable I mean the same every single time, then what's the point adjusting the club?

If your swing is flawed then it is flawed, get some lessons.
 
Surely all swings are flawed? No one's perfect.

I like my adjustable driver. As Ethan says, some want a club that sits open, but some also want square, and some closed.

This doesn't mean your swing is junk, it is a personal preference.

Most drivers sold sit slightly closed. If you draw the ball, this is not going to be good.

Better players drivers sit slightly open. If you fade, that won't be good either.

It is very hard to buy a driver with a square face. I am not sure they exist. And yet, with an adjustable driver, this is possible. I like that.
 
Wot murph said. I draw/hook the ball, but I would like a 3 wood I can fade, so I am considering a R9, tweaked slightly open and then left like that. I hate to see woods with closed faces. They scare me.
 
Surely all swings are flawed? No one's perfect.

I like my adjustable driver. As Ethan says, some want a club that sits open, but some also want square, and some closed.

This doesn't mean your swing is junk, it is a personal preference.

Most drivers sold sit slightly closed. If you draw the ball, this is not going to be good.

Better players drivers sit slightly open. If you fade, that won't be good either.

It is very hard to buy a driver with a square face. I am not sure they exist. And yet, with an adjustable driver, this is possible. I like that.

Yes that's a good point, I was refferring to people who buy them because they think it will cure their faults rather than practicing and having a lesson or 2.

No offense meant to those who buy them for the reasons you have stated.
 
Never really bought into this idea of adjustable technology especially on 3 and 5 woods! I think if you're having trouble off the tee its the golfing gods telling you that your swing is rubbish and either paly to your limitations or get a lesson or two. Don't fork out for an R9 or similar which is only going to mask the problem. I don't have too much of an issue with my range as its quite tucked away so we rarely get kids or idiots trying to smash it miles with an old Donnay driver (Sunday afternnons are the only time and I'm usually playing or wondering where it all went wrong from the morning)
 
No bother Bob.....There's plenty of the black stuff over here :D :D.....By the way the Toe up really did the trick for me its odd that such a small adjustment can have such a big difference......

But i have to agree with you...These new drivers are just a keeping up with the jones' issue if you ask me......

I know there are people that cant or wont take the time to straighten a slice or a hook but i dont think that 300 notes of the latest adjustibility is going to cure that.

What toe up trick??????
 
the toe of the driver upright!!!!!

As you take the club back (on your back swing) stop the club head when the shaft
is parallel to the ground and check the location of the toe of the club. Is it
pointed straight up (sky-ward)? It should be. Now swing through on the
downswing and, again, stop the club with the shaft parallel to the ground - is
the toe pointed sky-ward? Again, it should be. If your club head is not in the
"toe up" position at these mid-swing check points, then try "grooving" your
swing by practicing slow and easy half-swings (while actually hitting balls),
this will help you create the "muscle memory" needed to achieve the "toe up"
position.

copied this and have no idea what it means :D
 
Top