AD333 Tour Golf Ball

[palindromicbob]

When you look at the specs of the AD333 Tour really it seems to be a premium ball aimed at amateur swing speeds.

Same thickness of urethane cover (0.5mm) with a slightly smaller core and therefore thicker mantle than the Z-Star and lower compression (80 vs 90)

This is very similar to the Project(a) from Taylormade.

Targeting mid-low handicapper with lower swing speed who want the increased control offered by a soft urethane cover but haven't got the swing speed to get the most out of higher compression balls.

Really this is one of the latest marketing tools with Callaway taking the most obvious approach with regards to swing speed with the S range.

They should have changed the name though. The selling point of the AD333 was the unique 333 dimple design. Now that's up to 344 .

 

[BTatHome]

Ad333 with spin skin does not have the same cover as a zstar. It is still a surlyn cover. Spin skin is some kind of coating they are now putting on them all.

The ad333 tour and ZStar both have a surlyn cover.

 

[Foxholer]

The ad333 tour and ZStar both have a surlyn cover.

Er! I think you mean Urethane!

 

[palindromicbob]

The ad333 tour and ZStar both have a surlyn cover.

Current AD333 has a proprietary ionomer cover which is probably similar to Surlyn but Srixon would never say that.

AD333 Tour and Z-Star have urethane which is effectively the industry standard for a soft but generally less durable cover.

 

[BTatHome]

Er! I think you mean Urethane!

Correct, my head is not in the right place this evening.

 

[Foxholer]

Current AD333 has a proprietary ionomer cover which is probably similar to Surlyn but Srixon would never say that.

Surlyn is Dupont's (proprietary) ionomer film/coating

 

[palindromicbob]

Surlyn is Dupont's (proprietary) ionomer film/coating

What I mean't is that the ionomer cover Srixon uses appears to be proprietary to them.

 

[BTatHome]

I'm a convert to the Ad333 tour (as shown by my review) but I still have almost 2 dozen Tour Yellow ZStar in the garage. May have to sell them to fund a SLDR Mini ... anyone?

 

[NorfolkShaun]

When you look at the specs of the AD333 Tour really it seems to be a premium ball aimed at amateur swing speeds.

Same thickness of urethane cover (0.5mm) with a slightly smaller core and therefore thicker mantle than the Z-Star and lower compression (80 vs 90)

This is very similar to the Project(a) from Taylormade.

Targeting mid-low handicapper with lower swing speed who want the increased control offered by a soft urethane cover but haven't got the swing speed to get the most out of higher compression balls.

Really this is one of the latest marketing tools with Callaway taking the most obvious approach with regards to swing speed with the S range.

They should have changed the name though. The selling point of the AD333 was the unique 333 dimple design. Now that's up to 344 .

This to me is where things get confusing.

If you ask Titleist swing speed does not matter you just need the best ball for your game. Yet most other ball manufactures recommend selecting a ball to suit your swing speed

 

[Blue in Munich]

just for you Robin:thup:

http://www.srixon.co.uk/golf-balls/ad333-tour/

it looks like spin skin is their new patented cover on all the balls, even the soft feel lady Chris :thup:

I did the online ball fitting, according to the ball I may play otherwise I'm a ad333 tour, according to my 6 iron distance I'm a soft feel Lady :whoo:

Out of interest, I did the ball fitting; when I put in the NXT Tour in as my current ball, the ball I should play based on my current choice is the AD333 Tour, but based on my handicap & 6 iron distance it is the Z Star. However if I change the ball of choice to a Bridgestone B330-RX, the ball I should play based on my current choice is the Z Star, yet based on my handicap & 6 iron distance it is the AD333 Tour. So how does that work then?

I've played almost 4 rounds with an AD333 Tour; generally impressed & echo everyone else's thoughts, and it has held up much better than a Z Star would, but I think it comes up a club short compared with the Z Star, NXT Tour S or the Callaway Chrome+.

 

[Stuey01]

The ad333 tour and ZStar both have a surlyn cover.

I'm aware that they both have a urethane cover, as I posted earlier. Someone was asking about the normal ad333 which now has spin skin and it was suggested that it was the same cover as the zstar which it certainly is not.

Nothing better than being "corrected" by someone who is themselves wrong in not one, but two ways.

 

[Stuey01]

Side note, Wilson fg tour is a 4 piece urethane covered ball with a compression rating of just 70. Can be had for similar money to the ad333tour and is an excellent ball.

 

[BTatHome]

Nothing better than being "corrected" by someone who is themselves wrong in not one, but two ways.

whoopee :ears:

 

[guest100718]

This to me is where things get confusing.

If you ask Titleist swing speed does not matter you just need the best ball for your game. Yet most other ball manufactures recommend selecting a ball to suit your swing speed

The hole swing speed thing is BS

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

The hole swing speed thing is BS

Why?

 

[guest100718]

Why?

Because if a ball needed to be hit at high speed to "work" then how would we chip or pitcch

Plus harder balls go further for most of us.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Because if a ball needed to be hit at high speed to "work" then how would we chip or pitcch

Plus harder balls go further for most of us.

Because we haven't got the swing speeds to compress soft balls enough to go further? Just a thought?

 

[palindromicbob]

Because if a ball needed to be hit at high speed to "work" then how would we chip or pitcch

Plus harder balls go further for most of us.

They never say it's about getting to work though. They only talk about getting the most from it. Still I think it's more about finding something you are happy with.

If the attitude is round and white I'll play with it then happy days.

Personally I like something that "feels" right to me. Usually something that doesn't sound like a stone with a driver and doesn't feel like it flies off a putter and I'm happy enough to play with it. Been rather impressed recently with the Dunlop DP1 which funny enough is a 3 piece urethane ball available for £13.

 

[Foxholer]

Because if a ball needed to be hit at high speed to "work" then how would we chip or pitcch

Plus harder balls go further for most of us.

They will all 'work'! The various designs 'work best' for certain swing speeds though.

The 'harder goes further' rule went out when multi-layer balls came in! Compressions (hardness) of 100 and 110 were the norm before that. 70-90 is pretty much the norm now. Pro V1 is high 80s; Pro V1x is about 100 these days - but sounds/feels softer. It used to be slightly higher (107).

 

[guest100718]

The v1x goes further for most