2022 World Cup.

The way I saw it two players were tussling and grappling each other, it could even have been a foul by Lewandowski. Would have been stupidly harsh to send the other feller off. I didn't even think it was a pen.


Can argue whether its a pen or not but surely once he decides its a pen hes deemed to have fouled him, without trying to play the ball, he has no choice but to send him off
 
Can argue whether its a pen or not but surely once he decides its a pen hes deemed to have fouled him, without trying to play the ball, he has no choice but to send him off
I mean I think he was attempting to fairly go shoulder to shoulder and they've ended up grabbing each other. He's impeded him perhaps, but I don't think it's tantamount to grabbing someone off the ball and pulling them back. The red should just be for proper 'professional fouls' as they used to call them.
 
Finally a football match has almost broken out just when I was about to declare Poland Mexico an even bigger borefest than Netherlands Senegal.
 
I mean I think he was attempting to fairly go shoulder to shoulder and they've ended up grabbing each other. He's impeded him perhaps, but I don't think it's tantamount to grabbing someone off the ball and pulling them back. The red should just be for proper 'professional fouls' as they used to call them.

so you think he tried to play the ball?

this isnt about what youd like the rule to be (again) ;)
 
didnt try and play the ball did he?
@Orikoru has covered this really but I'd argue he and Lewandoski were doing a typical grab and pull as they were running together. I didn't see it as rugby tackle job.

I do think it is poor and lazy defending, I hate shirt pulling.

@ColchesterFC I see what you / they are saying but I don't think it was that type of situation. Lewandoski wasn't clear and then pulled back, it was side by side stuff.
 
Managed to see the last twenty minutes of the Saudi game and for the most part in that period they looked solid and well drilled and Argentina were simply devoid of ideas to break them down. Wonder if it will inspire the Aussies tonight. If they play like their openers in the cricket then France will be in trouble
 
@Orikoru has covered this really but I'd argue he and Lewandoski were doing a typical grab and pull as they were running together. I didn't see it as rugby tackle job.

I do think it is poor and lazy defending, I hate shirt pulling.

@ColchesterFC I see what you / they are saying but I don't think it was that type of situation. Lewandoski wasn't clear and then pulled back, it was side by side stuff.

The law states: "Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

If only we had an ex ref on here to give an opinion :)
 
The way I saw it two players were tussling and grappling each other, it could even have been a foul by Lewandowski. Would have been stupidly harsh to send the other feller off. I didn't even think it was a pen.
One of my pet hates.
Strikers always put their arms across defenders chests but once the defender does it they go down.
Happens all the time.
Pen must have been for the shirt pull.???
Very soft imo, considering what happened to Maguire. good to see it’s not just PL VAR that’s crap.
 
After seeing a pretty decent long range shot from behind it struck me that we haven't had the traditional World Cup 'wobbly ball'. Do you think mfrs have learned from previous efforts?
 
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