2022 World Cup.

[Lord Tyrion]

Hats off to Keiffer Moore. Had a major impact for Wales in the second half. Gave Wales a focal point up front, held the ball up well, brought others in.

It gives them a chance.

 

[clubchamp98]

Time added on at the end of halves has been significant in pretty much every game....wonder if the refs have been given specific guidance as to clamp down and and be a bit more strict on making sure appropriate time is added on for stoppages and time wasting.

Yes Pulisic going down but ref played on and he got up.
Well done to the ref.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

That was an Entertaining game, a draw was probably the right result. USA are a lively team, it will be funny watching Weah run rings around England’s cart horse.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you feel so strongly about Qatar, you should boycott watching all games. Bet you don't

Shouldn’t everyone feel strongly about Qatar and what goes on there ?‍ or indeed any country with such horrific human rights issues , treatment of migrant workers , treatment of women , treatment of LGBT or are you ok to ignore it because it’s football

 

[Slime]

I find all of them hypocrites , however I will still watch and enjoy the world cup. Will I suddenly think Qatar is a lovely place with banging human rights? Nope not a chance . Same with Saudis and Liv. Doesn't make me think they are great people just because they fund something.

But back to the point the players are cowards when it comes to real protest ..

They are merely footballers, it's unfair to shoulder them with the responsibility of ensuring global inclusivity. and human rights.
Calling them cowards is just ridiculous.
What real protest are you making?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They are merely footballers, it's unfair to shoulder them with the responsibility of ensuring global inclusivity. and human rights.
Calling them cowards is just ridiculous.
What real protest are you making?

Mere footballers with the whole sporting world watching them and the chance to do something and make a statement- they bottled it , all talk about wearing the arm band and making a statement about inclusivity and all that was needed was a threat of a yellow card - yes that’s a cowards act

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594768580176154624

 

[ColchesterFC]

Yes Pulisic going down but ref played on and he got up.
Well done to the ref.

I found that a bit strange. The ref had already stopped the game three times, once for a USA player and twice for Welsh players, for leg/foot injuries but the Pulisic went down and he let play continue. Didn't seem very consistent with what had gone before.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

They are merely footballers, it's unfair to shoulder them with the responsibility of ensuring global inclusivity. and human rights.
Calling them cowards is just ridiculous.
What real protest are you making?

Over the years footballers have fronted campaign after campaign. With their refusal to stand by their view, it looks like all previous campaigns have been a massive PR stunt.

 

[nickjdavis]

That was an Entertaining game, a draw was probably the right result. USA are a lively team, it will be funny watching Weah run rings around England’s cart horse.

If you are referring to HM then I'm not sure he will be able to play....I thought concussion protocols dictate that you need to rest for several days (7-10?) before playing again?

 

[4LEX]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594749585418764296

Take the knee for years and bang on about social justice but when it comes to making a real stand they bottle it. All we heard for months was nonsense about this one love arm band and how it is making a stand but at the first tiny threat they go back on everything that was said. All this political stuff can be rightly exposed for the bunch of crap it is.

Leave footballers to play football. It's that simple.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/11/21/virgil-van-dijk-wont-wear-onelove-armband-at-world-cup/

Shame on the Liverpool and Netherlands captain.

There is always the odd ?️ that will always look to bring some faux club tribalism into it - you never fail to disappoint Paddy

 

[Deleted member 21784]

They are merely footballers, it's unfair to shoulder them with the responsibility of ensuring global inclusivity. and human rights.
Calling them cowards is just ridiculous.
What real protest are you making?

Sorry but they are

They all agree to taking the knee, rainbow laces and the armbands

All it took was a yellow card threat and they backed down

Doesn't stop them removing their shirts when they score the risk of a yellow

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Take the knee for years and bang on about social justice but when it comes to making a real stand they bottle it. All we heard for months was nonsense about this one love arm band and how it is making a stand but at the first tiny threat they go back on everything that was said. All this political stuff can be rightly exposed for the bunch of crap it is.

Leave footballers to play football. It's that simple.

It should be but it’s not. Football has long gone from it just about being a sport.

You've only got to look not too far back as Politicians calling out Footballers to put their hands in their pockets during Covid.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

@Slime



This one summed it up for me

 

[Tashyboy]

The Grealish goal celebration! It's the one he promised the little autistic lad he would in the video that was released last week. The lad asked him to do it if he scored.

I think Grealish thought it might be in a city shirt.

 

[theoneandonly]

There is always the odd ?️ that will always look to bring some faux club tribalism into it - you never fail to disappoint Paddy

Strange reply. It's gutless of Harry Kane and the English fa but not Vvd and the Dutch fa?

 

[Swango1980]

Shouldn’t everyone feel strongly about Qatar and what goes on there ?‍ or indeed any country with such horrific human rights issues , treatment of migrant workers , treatment of women , treatment of LGBT or are you ok to ignore it because it’s football

I am sure we all feel strongly, and it hasn't been ignored. It has pretty much all anyone has talked about since Qatar won the bid. It is covered in the news, and the presenters and pundits have talked about it. Was somebody not complaining the BBC was talking about it too much, and they should stick to football?

So, I don't need Harry Kane to wear a coloured armband, and if he doesn't suddenly he is bottling it!? The players have been blitzed by questions regarding the issues for ages, and they have continually tried to answer them as best they can. But, they are footballers, not politicians or activists. They are there to do a job. As much as you want to continue virtue signalling, there are many English people that actually want to see England do well, and have the players focused on their job. Marcus Rashford did great things off the pitch a year or so ago, but to some it was felt it was a distraction, and had an impact on his performances on the pitch.

It seems like your life is to try and just take anybody down that is not associated with Liverpool FC .

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I am sure we all feel strongly, and it hasn't been ignored. It has pretty much all anyone has talked about since Qatar won the bid. It is covered in the news, and the presenters and pundits have talked about it. Was somebody not complaining the BBC was talking about it too much, and they should stick to football?

Yes lots of talk before hand and especially from England and Wales FA - yet when it came down to action from their talk they bottled it under a threat a yellow card

The Iran players risked far much more yet they had the courage to go through their convictions

what we saw is both the Wales and England FA or indeed any other FA who were very vocal about wearing the armband is that they didn’t have the courage to go with their convictions

So, I don't need Harry Kane to wear a coloured armband, and if he doesn't suddenly he is bottling it!? The players have been blitzed by questions regarding the issues for ages, and they have continually tried to answer them as best they can. But, they are footballers, not politicians or activists. They are there to do a job. As much as you want to continue virtue signalling, there are many English people that actually want to see England do well, and have the players focused on their job. Marcus Rashford did great things off the pitch a year or so ago, but to some it was felt it was a distraction, and had an impact on his performances on the pitch.

So basically we all care about human rights but not if it gets in the way of a football match or a player playing well - human rights etc aren’t as important as a team playing well

The players did a lot of talking about standing up to the issues but it seems it was just talk and when the time came to put actions to their words - something was more important to them.

It’s no surprise that no one single top level player has come out at gay - they clearly know they wouldn’t be backed by their fellow pros

It seems like your life is to try and just take anybody down that is not associated with Liverpool FC .

And that last comment pretty much sums you up - it’s got nothing to do with any club , my opinion would be no different if Henderson was captain and he did the same as Kane

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Mere footballers with the whole sporting world watching them and the chance to do something and make a statement- they bottled it , all talk about wearing the arm band and making a statement about inclusivity and all that was needed was a threat of a yellow card - yes that’s a cowards act

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594768580176154624

It’s the World Cup of football. Once the decision as to venue is decided( which is nowt to do with the players, the Players are there to play football)
Why don’t you lay the fault at the proper place, which is the people who decided the venue.?
If they go out and get a yellow , then a red , for continuing their protest, their team chances are wrecked, probably their careers etc.
They are there to play football.
calling them cowards is not good.
Seems to me a bit ironic, you calling them cowards from behind a keyboard.
Would you do it to their faces?

 

[Slime]

The players did a lot of talking about standing up to the issues but it seems it was just talk and when the time came to put actions to their words - something was more important to them.

It’s no surprise that no one single top level player has come out at gay - they clearly know they wouldn’t be backed by their fellow pros

I couldn't disagree more.
It's opposition supporters that I believe is putting them off.