2022 World Cup.

Gutted but it was sort of a typical England performance, loads of huff and puff but no end product, look solid but offer very little up top.

We have to be honest, the Prem hype machine makes our home grown players seem a lot better than they really are.
The world class tag is thrown at them too often and that shows when it’s required on a world stage imo.
 
Thought the French were the better side going forward for the majority of the game but nullified by a very good England defence.

Thought the ref had a shocker for both sides, and would certainly question why VAR was needed for the 2nd penalty. If he couldn’t see something that obvious, should he have been subbed? If players performing badly get subbed, why not refs? He got too many big decisions wrong.

Walker surprised me with how well he coped with Mbappe. A little disappointed with Kane - such a big guy but doesn’t really cause much disruption and is (almost) boringly predictable. Saka had a great game against a cynical opponent, and with little protection from the ref. Bellingham has been England’s outstanding player. Rice? Was he on the pitch?
 
Yeah, I really like McCoist. Funny lad IMHO.

Now if we are talking Dublin or Hartson....?

I was out yesterday while the Portugal game was on so had radio 5 live on in the car.
They’ve got pat nevin as a commentator and it’s a tough listen. He sounds like the old drunk guy from The Fast Show
 
Thought the French were the better side going forward for the majority of the game but nullified by a very good England defence.

Thought the ref had a shocker for both sides, and would certainly question why VAR was needed for the 2nd penalty. If he couldn’t see something that obvious, should he have been subbed? If players performing badly get subbed, why not refs? He got too many big decisions wrong.

Walker surprised me with how well he coped with Mbappe. A little disappointed with Kane - such a big guy but doesn’t really cause much disruption and is (almost) boringly predictable. Saka had a great game against a cynical opponent, and with little protection from the ref. Bellingham has been England’s outstanding player. Rice? Was he on the pitch?

Amazing how different people see things.. I think it's because of his role to defend makes him not stand out. Doing the ugly work

From the guardian

Declan Rice: Had his work cut out trying to mark Griezmann. Had to make a lot of interceptions and covering runs. Grew stronger as the game progressed. 8/10
 
Not blaming him for us going out,just not our night imo.
But I don’t get all the hype for Declan Rice.
Bang average prem player for me.

Totally agree. He is bang average. One big team shows an interest in him and the media jump on the bandwagon. Same with Maguire, Stones, Henderson and Kane. If they were at clubs lower down in the league, the media wouldn't be all over them and they wouldn't be picked for England.
 
Amazing how different people see things.. I think it's because of his role to defend makes him not stand out. Doing the ugly work

From the guardian

Declan Rice: Had his work cut out trying to mark Griezmann. Had to make a lot of interceptions and covering runs. Grew stronger as the game progressed. 8/10

I'm sure Ireland will be proud of him....
 
Maguire should have owned Giroud. But then again he’s their top scorer blah blah. Kane looked nervous even before the 1st pen but hey normally you’d back him every time

I was at the bar and missed their 2nd goal, id only seen the replay.

I thought it was Rice but when i watched the highlight's i realised it was Maguire ?‍♂️
 
I was at the bar and missed their 2nd goal, id only seen the replay.

I thought it was Rice but when i watched the highlight's i realised it was Maguire ?‍♂️

Because you were looking for a reason ?
 
Er yeah i wanted to know who gave Giroud a free header and it looked like Rice to me. ?‍♂️

End of day we can look for reasons. Griemans who played the ball in should have been off the pitch , rabiot should have been off with his constant yellow card offences

The pen not in first half, the foul in build up

All that but we played well , I think the entire team can hold their heads high we gave the world champs a good game we didn't go missing and nobody hide
 
Rice, I'm surprised at the negativity for Rice. He was all over, vacuuming up play, intercepting balls, breaking up play. Not sexy stuff but vital all the same. He is an absolute shoe in next game up.

That's entirely the problem tho, it's not the sexy stuff

Perfect makelele play , but it's a very under appreciated role still

It annoys me to see him doing it so well for England because it's like this is how he used to play for us.. until he wants to be prime Gerrard and box to box. We have just caved to try and keep him

Sod off. Stay back and do your job
 
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