Wrong custom fitting?

[swanny32]

A guy on a forum I belong to has been asking whether or not anyone has ever heard of a custom fitting being wrong? He got fitted for some TaylorMade irons last year and ever since getting them hasn't been able to hit them. He plays off 4 so it's not really a quality of swing issue.

Anyone got any suggestions as to what he could do about it? I think he's currently waiting for a call back from TM.

I did tell him to come and sign up here but not sure if he will or not.

 

[G1BB0]

go elsewhere maybe and get a 2nd opinion... apart from that who knows.

 

[duncan mackie]

I've certainly seen examples of misunderstandings over heads (R9 v R9tp) and shafts KBS Tour S v KBS Tour 90 S show how small differences in designation can be large differences in equipement.

If he has the print out this shouldn't happen.

The other thing can be that people in such sessions can perform 'better', even off 4! they swing with a better tempo because a machine is watching and scoring them.

The obvious solution is to 'go again' and see if the same recomendation comes up, obviously taking their clubs with them. Any good test operation should willingly review in such cases - they would want to know what happened for the (their) future.

 

[Imurg]

The trouble with custom fitting is that it's only as good as the swing you rock up with on the day.
A couple of years ago I was fitted for i15's - can't remember the spec but when I got them I struggled to the point of losing all faith in the clubs, selling them for no loss of cash and getting re-fitted at Mizuno for a different spec - even taking into account that the "standard" varies from Ping to Mizuno.
The Mizuno's were spot on.
Now I don't think I was incorrectly fitted for the Pings but the swing I presented on the day obviously bore little resemblance to my normal swing - hence the incorrect fitting.
If he's talking to Tm then that's a positive step.
If he got fitted last year and still can't hit them then there's something wrong for sure.
I would say, for a player of his calibre, that a couple of weeks/3-4 rounds should be all that's needed to know if they're right or wrong.

 

[G1BB0]

actually, thinking about this, should a proper custom fit be done over 2 or 3 sessions? That way you get a mean average of the 3, if no changes great, if subtle ones then fine, if major differences then god knows

 

[Imurg]

Not a bad idea at all Gibbo.
Would probably hike the cost though...

 

[G1BB0]

yup, £££ is king unfortunately

 

[swanny32]

From what he's told me he's in discussion with TM but is losing the will to live at the moment by the sounds of things. Maybe a short visit to somewhere like AG will shed a little more light on the situation. Hoping he doesn't get stung though and lose out on a lot of money.

 

[duncan mackie]

looking at your post again

if he was fitted last year but the clubs are clearly wrong for him I din't understand why it's taken so long to raise the matter. he was fitted for them, not buying something he was trying out to see if it suited him etc so if it's obvious now, why wasn't it obvious then?

I take it there were absolutely no variations from the recommendation?

I also take it we aren't discussing a junior in the growing years where 6 months is even longer than it is in politics.

 

[swanny32]

I don't know his age but pretty sure he's not a junior.

Not sure why it's taken him this long to raise the issue, I think he's been looking into it for a while as he's gone out with his pro to see what he thinks as his pro said it had to be a swing fault, as far as I'm aware that came to no avail.

 

[Imurg]

If the clubs are already at least 6 months old he's going to lose a shed-load if TM or whoever fitted them won't alter them.

 

[CMAC]

I had a similar issue with Mizuno, I felt the heads and shaft were wrong from day 1, persevered for 2 rounds and then Mizuno got me back in to the fitter. On the monitor the figures were actually ok, but the FEEL wasn't and when your only hitting 1 iron every 10 minutes on the course the feel and confidence has to be high.

I sold them back to the retailer and lost nearly half even though they were mint, and bought my MP69's with heavier and stiffer shafts because they felt better without using a monitor.

One thing is, if you have a have decent swing you can use most club combo's, especially one shot after another on a range, I've picked up friends reg shafted Ping shovels and hit them well on the range, put me on the course with them and it would be a different story.

Gibbos idea is spot on but costs would increase but you would save in the long run both financially and mentally:thup:

 

[swanny32]

He got them fitted by a GM Top 25 pro who he has since contacted and the pro is having none of it apparently. I won't name names.

It would seem as though TM are his only hope.

 

[JT77]

As has been said, the fitter can only fit you to the swing you have on the given day.
I was fitted a few years ago by a tm fitter, and believed that because I was fit they must be right, after 2 years, sold them and bought off ebay, hit them better form day one. Just the luck of the draw i guess.
If he knows they are wrong, then he needs to change them, cant blame the fitter imo, he only can work with what he sees at the time.

 

[GB72]

This is why I really felt the benefit of my Orka fit. We spent an hour just making sure I was hitting my current clubs to the best of my ability and got the best stats we could with them before I even looked at another club. The we started to look at options if I wanted to change.

 

[duncan mackie]

This is why I really felt the benefit of my Orka fit. We spent an hour just making sure I was hitting my current clubs to the best of my ability and got the best stats we could with them before I even looked at another club. The we started to look at options if I wanted to change.

surely you must go through this stage at any fitting? I've only had one fitting where TM came to the club and set up there, and this was one of the steps, and not rushed.

 

[swanny32]

The two pro's we have on our forum have started chatting to him and seem to think that it's all down to technique rather than something being wrong with the fitting process.

 

[pbrown7582]

It maybe the TM just don't suit him and it's a confidence thing?
There was a post over weekend from a forumer who had full TM fit at wentworth for an R11s but just can't get it with it, was it an independent fit or one for TM gear

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Would be surprised if it really is the fit to blame. I understand where people are coming from about different swings for different days and I've been C/F'd before and not got on with the clubs (ironically TM R9's). However off 4 I'd have thought the technique was far more honed and it would be more a developing swing fault to blame. If he was unhappy for so long why didn't he go back to the tester earlier?

 

[swanny32]

Just after he got the sticks his wife gave birth so he was never able to get out to play until the last couple of months.