World Cup 2018

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Russia look like moving into the knockouts. Salah looking very unfit and still protecting the shoulder. Hope for Liverpool's sake if their final match vs Saudi is a dead rubber they rest him. He looks scared of any physical challenge or falling on it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
To get the best out of Sterling they should play him in the role he plays at City - play him wide up high and not as a number 10 , even though Sterling thinks he is better as a number 10 he is better as part of a front three - that’s where he played for us and was superb and again at City. Play him and Rashford either side of Kane with someone like Alli or Lingard as the number 10. Its a front 3/4 with a lot of pace and energy that’s going to scare teams. And yep his confidence in a blue shirt is sky high - in an England shirt it needs a massive boost. They should give him the Panama game - if he doesn’t improve then against Belguim bring in Vardy
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Never going to happen, Southgate has decided the way he wants to play and will stick with that and only alter the formation if it’s needed.

Not or a good idea to change at this stage to try and get the best out of Sterling, he’s had 39 games now if he was any use as a international it would have been seen by now.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does that mean we can’t discuss it or form an opinion about different systems that could work

And something being sent in stone could easily be the reason why England won’t progress as a team , others set up to suit the players but are also flexible. 1990 England went into the tournament with one formation that they used in training and qualification - it wasn’t working great so Robson had the foresight and flexibility to change the system and it worked , he is also did it in 1986 and Venables also adjusted in the run up to Euro 1996. Previous managers that have failed have just stuck to “their system” and it’s been their undoing. You would hope Southgate would have the flexiblity to have a plan B for when his preffered system doesn’t work - if he doesn’t then England will continue to fall down when it comes to the crucial stages
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As a Liverpool fan this sounds very familiar.?
 
Rlburnside said:
Not or a good idea to change at this stage to try and get the best out of Sterling, he’s had 39 games now if he was any use as a international it would have been seen by now.
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Can't argue. Sterling has had umpteen matches and played poorly in the Euro 2016 tournament (not that many did well). I simply think he's not good enough in terms of being clinical at this level. Needs to many chances to score.
 
Rlburnside said:
Never going to happen, Southgate has decided the way he wants to play and will stick with that and only alter the formation if it’s needed.

Not or a good idea to change at this stage to try and get the best out of Sterling, he’s had 39 games now if he was any use as a international it would have been seen by now.
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It’s not just about getting the best out of Sterling is getting the best out of the better players in the squad and allowing the system to bring in players like Rashford and Rose and Loftus Cheek

And people keep throwing around the 39 games - how many of them were under the dinosaur Hodgson , a manager not known for getting the best out of creative players. I guess Pep must be a special manager to get the best out of Sterling. Must have been very lucky to score all those goals last season
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Can't argue. Sterling has had umpteen matches and played poorly in the Euro 2016 tournament (not that many did well). I simply think he's not good enough in terms of being clinical at this level. Needs to many chances to score.
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This ,
If Sterling was that good and a clinical finisher Liverpool would not have sold him, or tried harder to keep him.
But think he wanted to go like Coutinho.
The fact they sold him to a main rival speaks volumes.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s not just about getting the best out of Sterling is getting the best out of the better players in the squad and allowing the system to bring in players like Rashford and Rose and Loftus Cheek

And people keep throwing around the 39 games - how many of them were under the dinosaur Hodgson , a manager not known for getting the best out of creative players. I guess Pep must be a special manager to get the best out of Sterling. Must have been very lucky to score all those goals last season
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Brenda also got Sterling playing well.
Maybe you was right and he was the messiah
 
clubchamp98 said:
This ,
If Sterling was that good and a clinical finisher Liverpool would not have sold him, or tried harder to keep him.
But think he wanted to go like Coutinho.
The fact they sold him to a main rival speaks volumes.
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If Man City were to sell him in the summer who would be interested?
Man Utd, certainly not, Spurs, no way they have better as it is, Chelsea, don’t think he would add quality, Arsenal, probably as they seem to have a penchant for average England players 😂
 
Bunkermagnet said:
Sterling looked good because he had Suarez to help him.
He's a player who looks better because of those around him, and when he is required to do more himself he falls short.
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To be fair you could level that accusation at most English players of the last 15 or so years.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s not just about getting the best out of Sterling is getting the best out of the better players in the squad and allowing the system to bring in players like Rashford and Rose and Loftus Cheek

And people keep throwing around the 39 games - how many of them were under the dinosaur Hodgson , a manager not known for getting the best out of creative players. I guess Pep must be a special manager to get the best out of Sterling. Must have been very lucky to score all those goals last season
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How many qualifiers and friendlies has Southgate managed now? Must be at least 20 and so over half of Sterling's appearances. Very lazy to blame it all on Hodgson and we all get your dislike. The fact is, neither has found a way to get the best from him and he still needs a hatful of chances at both and club level to score one. With City he's likely to get those chances. In internationals there isn't that luxury
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Russia look like moving into the knockouts. Salah looking very unfit and still protecting the shoulder. Hope for Liverpool's sake if their final match vs Saudi is a dead rubber they rest him. He looks scared of any physical challenge or falling on it
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That can't be true because all the medical geniuses on here said that it was blown out of proportion and he would definitely be fit for the World Cup...
 
And as for Sterling, is there a chance that he's a very good player, who'll score lots of goals in a certain system but can't do it at international level because they aren't truly world class? Aka he isn't amazing but also isn't completely crap?

Robbie Fowler, Andy Cole, Kevin Phillips...
 
Kellfire said:
And as for Sterling, is there a chance that he's a very good player, who'll score lots of goals in a certain system but can't do it at international level because they aren't truly world class? Aka he isn't amazing but also isn't completely crap?

Robbie Fowler, Andy Cole, Kevin Phillips...
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No, I wouldn't have thought so.
 
Loftus Cheek, I don't watch much footie, but he's supposed to be super duper isn't he? More like an Emily Hesky if you ask me. Charges forward with the ball and as long as he's not challenged, looks good. Couldn't beat an egg.
 
Kellfire said:
That can't be true because all the medical geniuses on here said that it was blown out of proportion and he would definitely be fit for the World Cup...
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He was fit for the world cup he played the full 90 mins and certainly didnt looked tired.

Unlike his team mates he wasnt running around like a headless chicken he chose his moments.
Egypt also play totally different to Liverpool,he didnt look as sharp as he has done during the season.
I think mentally he was worried about falling down on his shoulder thats normal,once he does it and feels no effects im sure the fear will go,albeit slowly.
Will be interesting to see if he plays in there last game.
 
pokerjoke said:
He was fit for the world cup he played the full 90 mins and certainly didnt looked tired.

Unlike his team mates he wasnt running around like a headless chicken he chose his moments.
Egypt also play totally different to Liverpool,he didnt look as sharp as he has done during the season.
I think mentally he was worried about falling down on his shoulder thats normal,once he does it and feels no effects im sure the fear will go,albeit slowly.
Will be interesting to see if he plays in there last game.
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You saw what you wanted to see - he was clearly not right.
 
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