World Cup 2018

[Deleted member 16999]

So with 48 games played already, has any individual player been a standout so put themselves in the shop window for a move to a big European club from their current relative obscurity?

None spring to mind.

Has been an excellent groups phase though, perhaps best ever?

I think you’re correct, there’s been some great moments of play from both teams and individuals, but at this early stage I don’t see anyone head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[Orikoru]

So with 48 games played already, has any individual player been a standout so put themselves in the shop window for a move to a big European club from their current relative obscurity?

None spring to mind.

Has been an excellent groups phase though, perhaps best ever?

Hirving Lozano? If you can call the Dutch league obscurity (near enough).
Was going to say Etebo of Nigeria, apparently he was already bought by Stoke three weeks ago though.
Couple of the Russians got some attention, like Golovin, although he was already getting linked to some big teams beforehand I think.

Can't think of many others.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Never buy a player based on a good World Cup. Many a dud has been bought that way.

 

[Piece]

Never buy a player based on a good World Cup. Many a dud has been bought that way.

Karel Poborsky springs to mind

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Karel Poborsky springs to mind

El Haj Diouf and a few of his team mates. They had a great world cup and then .........................

 

[drewster]

My thoughts are that Danny Rose was always going to play once he got some miles in his legs. Ashley Young has been keeping the bed warm in the meantime. I'm a West Ham fan and hate both Spurs and Man U but can see the obvious benefit and upgrade in Danny Rose from Ashley Young. Maybe GS proves me wrong on Tuesday but we'll see.


One thing for certain is we really lack a dead ball specialist , TAA's corners and free kicks were woeful last night and Ashley Youngs were awful in the previous two games.

 

[Piece]

In a lacklustre performance I think Rose stood out above most. Yes he made a mistake but then he wasn't singly culpable for the goal, he adds much more going forward than Young and has a left foot that is not just for standing on. No, Young hasn't done anything wrong but then he didn't play against a side in the two games that tested him, I don't think Rose would have struggled either and, for me, its about putting out the best players for each game from now on and I rate Rose over Young every day of the week. I'm also unbiased as I'm a Palace fan!

Rose was good going forward but when it came to his bread and butter, defending, he wasn't great at all. Gave Januzaj far too much space for goal. I want my international defender to close him down. Rose is the better player but Young is in better form. The better teams will expose the space behind Trippier and Rose/Young.

 

[drewster]

So with 48 games played already, has any individual player been a standout so put themselves in the shop window for a move to a big European club from their current relative obscurity?

None spring to mind.

Has been an excellent groups phase though, perhaps best ever?

Quintero from Columbia has been proper good and correct if i'm wrong he's still playing in South America. He'll get picked up by someone I'm sure.

 

[chrisd]

Well, I can't help but disagree with you based on what both players do on the pitch. Rose struggled to get a place in the Spurs team this year due to his lack of form and his mental troubles, too.

Well, lucky our views are only opinion, but yours is wrong

 

[Kellfire]

Karel Poborsky springs to mind

Beautiful hair though!

 

[Orikoru]

My thoughts are that Danny Rose was always going to play once he got some miles in his legs. Ashley Young has been keeping the bed warm in the meantime. I'm a West Ham fan and hate both Spurs and Man U but can see the obvious benefit and upgrade in Danny Rose from Ashley Young. Maybe GS proves me wrong on Tuesday but we'll see.


One thing for certain is we really lack a dead ball specialist , TAA's corners and free kicks were woeful last night and Ashley Youngs were awful in the previous two games.

Were you not paying attention when Trippier delivered a succession of excellent corners and free kicks in the first two games?

 

[pokerjoke]

My thoughts are that Danny Rose was always going to play once he got some miles in his legs. Ashley Young has been keeping the bed warm in the meantime. I'm a West Ham fan and hate both Spurs and Man U but can see the obvious benefit and upgrade in Danny Rose from Ashley Young. Maybe GS proves me wrong on Tuesday but we'll see.


One thing for certain is we really lack a dead ball specialist , TAA's corners and free kicks were woeful last night and Ashley Youngs were awful in the previous two games.

Don't get this at all.
If you go back over the last few pages most people say Trippiers free kick and especially corners were good,I bet you couldn't find me 3 corners or free kicks Young took in the 2 previous games.
Young or Rose would be fine by me but to state Rose would be better,well who knows.
As you say Young hasn't really been tested,however Rose was and failed,although maybe that wouldn't happen again.
I will hazard a guess it will be the same team that started the first game,I suspect Alli is fit again.

 

[pokerjoke]

Were you not paying attention when Trippier delivered a succession of excellent corners and free kicks in the first two games?

Obviously he wasn't because it was blindingly obvious to most.

 

[Orikoru]

Don't get this at all.
If you go back over the last few pages most people say Trippiers free kick and especially corners were good,I bet you couldn't find me 3 corners or free kicks Young took in the 2 previous games.
Young or Rose would be fine by me but to state Rose would be better,well who knows.
As you say Young hasn't really been tested,however Rose was and failed,although maybe that wouldn't happen again.
I will hazard a guess it will be the same team that started the first game,I suspect Alli is fit again.

Agree. If nothing else, last night proved how vital so many of our players are to the system Gareth has designed. Trippier, Lingard, Kane, Henderson, Maguire, all absolutely vital to the way that we're playing for different reasons.

 

[TheDiablo]

Both Rose and Rashford had to prove they deserved selection over Young/Sterling last night through their performance. Neither did anywhere near enough to displace the current status-quo, in fact both failed at their most important part of the match respectively.

Fully expect to see the same side that started the Tunisia game take the pitch against Columbia (or RLC if Alli isnt fit)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

My thoughts are that Danny Rose was always going to play once he got some miles in his legs. Ashley Young has been keeping the bed warm in the meantime. I'm a West Ham fan and hate both Spurs and Man U but can see the obvious benefit and upgrade in Danny Rose from Ashley Young. Maybe GS proves me wrong on Tuesday but we'll see.


One thing for certain is we really lack a dead ball specialist , TAA's corners and free kicks were woeful last night and Ashley Youngs were awful in the previous two games.

AA is normally very good from the dead ball so was weird seeing him put in so many poor ones , maybe a bit of nerves

Trippier delivers a very good ball from a set piece and also from open play - he is a very good right back

England have that spot sorted for a good number of years with Trippier and AA

 

[MegaSteve]

AA is normally very good from the dead ball so was weird seeing him put in so many poor ones , maybe a bit of nerves

I was gutted for the lad... A bit overawed perhaps... Though in open play he did well...
A bit of good management from Gareth needed so it doesn't knock him back too much....

 

[Kellfire]

The game was played at such low intensity, I wouldn't judge anyone's future development from the game. TAA will do just fine.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I was gutted for the lad... A bit overawed perhaps... Though in open play he did well...
A bit of good management from Gareth needed so it doesn't knock him back too much....

Agreed, though the way he started the game and his initial distribution in open play, I thought he was anything but overawed.
Even as a blue I think he’s had an excellent season and hopefully will go from strength to strength for England.

 

[TheDiablo]

To judge TAA on last night is a bit stupid. Judge him on how he performed under high pressure for Liverpool this season. An incredibly exciting prospect. (and I hold less than a neutral opinion of Liverpool!)