World Cup 2018

[richart]

Here's how I see it.

As far as I'm aware, nobody on here is either managing or coaching a football team at the highest level (and by that I mean the professional game).

Likewise I'm not aware of anyone who has played - or is playing - the game at the highest level, professionally, Championship level or above.

(If I'm wrong please correct me).

So if that's the case, then NONE OF US are even remotely qualified to question who should or shouldn't be playing for the England team!!

And unless you all have coaching qualifications from UEFA B level and above, then I'd also go so far as to say that any recommendations on formations, tactics and who should be playing where are also laughable!!

Yes some of you may well say "I manage my local men's team, I do know what I'm talking about" let's face it managing Rag Arse Rovers and hoping your star midfield play maker hasn't been out till 3 and then get a dodgy kebab on the way home isn't exactly the same as being in charge of a group of professional players is it?!!!

Think people need to calm down and have a bit of a reality check! There's a big difference between 'he didn't play particularly well this evening IMO' and 'he's rubbish and needs to be replaced by xyz for the next game'.

but does having a bro that played in the Premier League qualify you to knock the experts on here ?:ears:

 

[ColchesterFC]

Good to see the pundits in the studio calling out the play acting from the players. Shame they'll only do it when it's one of the smaller teams and don't mention it when it's the big teams.

Although I caught the end of the Morrocco v Portugal game on the radio on the school run earlier and Stuart Pearce (I think it was him) said that Ronaldo was cheating when he went down in the box and that Pepe was pathetic and embarrassing when he went down after being patted on the back.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

There are a number of countries who get to World Cups each time who are technically very correct, pass the ball beautifully but as you say can not score for love nor money. If any of these teams, often North African and Middle East teams, ever get a goal scorer then they could do something. Until then they turn up, go out at the group stage, repeat in 4 years time.

It's a developmental thing though and needs the home FA to have the funds and the ability to invest and develop the next generation. They are technically good and many of these African players are playing in the major European leagues so getting the experience. I guess you could level the same about the Asian nations too. It'll come and the African Cup of Nations will be vital for them to get competitive experience

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Controversy here. Spain get a break. Knew the minnow wouldn't get the decision

 

[Dan2501]

Controversy here. Spain get a break. Knew the minnow wouldn't get the decision

Nothing to do with who it was, it was offside. It did exactly what VAR has been designed to do, just very slowly. It needs to become a better part of the broadcast/in-stadium show as at the minute everyone's just in the dark until the ref hears what the decision is. Needs to be more like the DRS in Cricket.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Controversy here. Spain get a break. Knew the minnow wouldn't get the decision

I think he was offside from the flick on by the Iranian player not from the initial free kick but why are players (from both sides) arguing with the ref about the decision while it's being checked with VAR? The video will show what happened, the decision will be made and the ref will be told. He can't do anything about it while it's being checked so what's the point arguing about it? Whether the decision ends up being right or wrong it's out of the ref's hands at that point.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Nothing to do with who it was, it was offside. It did exactly what VAR has been designed to do, just very slowly. It needs to become a better part of the broadcast/in-stadium show as at the minute everyone's just in the dark until the ref hears what the decision is. Needs to be more like the DRS in Cricket.

I agree. It was painful waiting and I think there needs to be more interaction. Really liked the way Iran have stuck to their plan and stifled Spain and have created their own chances. The goal was a fluke and Costa knew nothing about it. That header may be the big one coming and going

 

[FairwayDodger]

In fairness a lot of the comments highlighted that her commentary was not great, not that she shouldn't be commentating because she is female.

In this age of equality I have no issues with females taking such roles, but they should be judged to the same standards as men. I didn't watch this game, but some of the female punditry to date has been pretty limited in terms of content and insight. If they are there they should be on merit, not to tick some boxes about equality (in my humble opinion).

Unfortunately women are judged to a much harsher standard than men.

 

[fundy]

set the alarm for monday, portugal v iran gonna be a cracdker not to be missed lol

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Unfortunately women are judged to a much harsher standard than men.

She is the first female commentator in a previously all male world, commentating on all male match so is bound to be highlighted. I'm not a fan, too shrieky, but to balance this I couldn't bear John Motson and find Jonathon Pearce equally painful. I turn over or press mute for all three.

She has broken the glass ceiling though so others will likely follow.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

set the alarm for monday, portugal v iran gonna be a cracdker not to be missed lol

I believe one possible match in the next round is Portugal v Uruguay. I'm definitely missing that one. Two dreadful teams to watch, both constantly throwing themselves on the floor.

 

[Orikoru]

She is the first female commentator in a previously all male world, commentating on all male match so is bound to be highlighted. I'm not a fan, too shrieky, but to balance this I couldn't bear John Motson and find Jonathon Pearce equally painful. I turn over or press mute for all three.

She has broken the glass ceiling though so others will likely follow.

Jacqui Oatley was the first notable female commentator, is she is good but she's ended up doing presenting on ITV instead - perhaps that was always her aim. The female commentator from yesterday is named Vicki Sparks (sorry but that really sounds like a porn star name to me) but I agree with you, I didn't particularly like her tone of voice for the role.

Anyway, I'm still laughing about the Iranian throw in yesterday. Never seen anything like it, what the hell was he thinking!? :rofl:

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Steve Watson used to do that throw for Newcastle back in the 90's. He genuinely could do it, there is probably an example on YouTube somewhere. He could chuck it a really long way. The manager banned him after a while in case he injured himself. The Iranian guy looked a tube yesterday, you have to get that right.

 

[HowlingGale]

The two female pundits I have seen so far have been very good - Ene Uloku ( no idea if that’s right ) has been very insightful and knowledgable , she was the lady that Larson and Evra clapped and then in the recent video with Phil Neville copying her word for word. Commentator though was pretty poor

Think you'll find the lady that Evra clapped was Eni Aluko (Her bro played for Aberdeen, incidentally). The lady Phil Neville copied was Alex Scott. Two very different characters.

Have enjoyed listening to both and better than that tube, Phil.

No idea who the female commentator is but if it's the one that does some match of the day commentries, she is utter rubbish.

And before I get accused of sexism the guy that commentates on the Scotland games on sky is utter rubbish as well.

 

[Crazyface]

Nice to see a female commentating on a world cup match for the 1st time. Of course a strong female doing a role that men traditionally do coupled with the fact that is on the BBC is cat nip to the Daily mail comments section. Thank the lord she is not a Muslim or they may have self imploded....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...kes-history-female-World-Cup-commentator.html

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I flicked over to the five live commentary on the red button after 10 seconds.

 

[Crazyface]

She is the first female commentator in a previously all male world, commentating on all male match so is bound to be highlighted. I'm not a fan, too shrieky, but to balance this I couldn't bear John Motson and find Jonathon Pearce equally painful. I turn over or press mute for all three.

She has broken the glass ceiling though so others will likely follow.

It was like having the treble turned up beyond the max.

 

[Orikoru]

Steve Watson used to do that throw for Newcastle back in the 90's. He genuinely could do it, there is probably an example on YouTube somewhere. He could chuck it a really long way. The manager banned him after a while in case he injured himself. The Iranian guy looked a tube yesterday, you have to get that right.

I've seen it done before, by Watson and others. Usually in friendlies though... It was just incredible he elected to try it when they're 1-0 down in the 90th minute in the World Cup! And then proceeded to make an absolute arse of it.

 

[Beezerk]

I flicked over to the five live commentary on the red button after 10 seconds.

5 Live had a female commentator for a game the other day from what I gather. I heard a clip and she wasn't my cup of tea, she sounded like those kids who send in entries for the "young commentator of the year" competition they have on the station.

 

[Orikoru]

5 Live had a female commentator for a game the other day from what I gather. I heard a clip and she wasn't my cup of tea, she sounded like those kids who send in entries for the "young commentator of the year" competition they have on the station.

It was probably the same woman. I don't think they have a huge raft of female commentators at the Beeb.

 

[pbrown7582]

I think Spain are my least favourite team so far this World Cup. Costa, Ramos and Busquets are all horrible snide players who like dishing it out but then squeal like stuck pigs whenever anyone comes near them. They aren't the only ones by any means but they are three of the worst.

Naah i like Ramos!