Why oh why oh why....

[HickoryShaft]

Would you leave a brand new ball in the middle of the fairway !!

We played 3/4 handicap Stableford on Saturday and I would have won other than playing the wrong ball on our 15th. I mean who leaves a brand new Nike PD soft ball on the fairway where I hit my ball to and dupes me into hitting it!!

My fault I know but you walk up (just ended up over a slight crest), see its the ball make and type you are playing in the right area of the fairway and you don't check as carefully as you could. My playing partners were the other side of the fairway annd in the rough so it definitely wasn't theirs.

I had hit the first into the green and walked on a few feet to see my actual ball lying there laughing at me - doh! Mine was actually 2 inches off the fairway about 6 foot ahead where the first cut came in.

Thinned it through the frozen green and took 3 to get down so carded a 6 with penalty - nil points.

I always mark my ball but on this occasion didn't double check to see my mark on it.

the stick I got in the bar

 

[need_my_wedge]

You're not the first, similar thing happened to me last summer whilst playing in a charity day. Was lucky, because after I declared I'd played the wrong ball, everyone said, don't worry, it's all for charity, so didn't lose the point I'd salvaged. Did teach me to always check for my mark though.

 

[CMAC]

always always mark your ball

 

[HickoryShaft]

Silly thing is - it was marked but I just figured it was on the part that was facing down - doh!

 

[MikeB]

And always always make sure that just because you can see the 3 red dots you marked your Srixon with there isn't a 4th red dot hiding where you can't quite see it and go ahead with the shot just before it's real owner arrives like I did :-(

 

[Achilles]

On a positive note, count it as a lesson learnt! My bet is you won't do it again, at least not for a very long time! One of those small details like signing your card that can be a real kick in the balls when you forget to do it. Not that I have. Yet!

 

[bluewolf]

Re: Why oh why oh....

Spells Yo Yo....

Is there a tumbleweed smilie?

 

[birdieman]

2 stroke penalty for this infringement = score of 7.

Glad for you this wasn't a formal competition or the old cheater tag could be getting put to use.....I'm not being a smart arse, you've gotta be very careful with this type of thing!!

 

[steve_wood]

The exact same thing happened to a friend of mine. He was not a happy bunny. How I giggled to myself as this mistake cost him the hole :ears:

 

[rosecott]

I had hit the first into the green and walked on a few feet to see my actual ball lying there laughing at me - doh! Mine was actually 2 inches off the fairway about 6 foot ahead where the first cut came in.

Thinned it through the frozen green and took 3 to get down so carded a 6 with penalty - nil points.

If you had got down in 2 from through the green, what score and points would you have claimed?

I may have misunderstood your post, but it seemed to me that you only took 1 penalty stroke.

 

[Oddsocks]

I feel for the original poster here, hes playing a nike pd soft, walks up and sees a nike pd soft so hits it. now providing its the same number, then its a bloody easy mistake to make:

Make - Confirmed
Number - Confirmed
Area of playing - the right area

i dont see how he could have done things different. and if it had been a bounce game i would have let anyone within my group off with the said infringement

Alot of people may think im soft here, but mid summer last year we were playing the addington, id smashed a peach up the 8th, over a blind crest and was in A1 position, we all saw it, one of the guys in our group duck hooks one off the tee, walks up to where we thought hes ball was and low and behold, there is a srixon AD333, number 3 (had 3's and 4's in my bag) marked exactly how i mark mine, 4 orange dots one each end of the name, one above the name in the middle and one below. This means someone in my area has either found one ive lost and took it there (cant see it as it was new) or someone out there is playing the same balls and marking them in the same fashion.

My point is there is a only so many ways you can mark a ball, with the exception of initials we all use pretty standard things, 1 dot by the number etc, i think to penalise a guy for playing the exact ball name and number is harsh given it was where he was expecting to find hes drive. People refer to checking the ball for hes mark, how could he do this if the ball was in the rough?

Tuff love that... i would have been pissed!

 

[chrisd]

Normally I would have posted a "holier than thou" comment ......... but a few weeks ago playing a 4BBB winter league match, not only did I play a wrong ball, I marked it, picked it up an cleaned it and placed it before playing it. Added to which, it was a completely different make of ball and my own ball is always clearly marked!


Chris

 

[Oddsocks]

did I play a wrong ball, I marked it, picked it up an cleaned it and placed it before playing it. Added to which, it was a completely different make of ball and my own ball is always clearly marked!


Chris

sort of a give away that it wasnt your ball then mate :rofl:

 

[bladeplayer]

And always always make sure that just because you can see the 3 red dots you marked your Srixon with there isn't a 4th red dot hiding where you can't quite see it and go ahead with the shot just before it's real owner arrives like I did :-(

just wondering . . how would you manage to check this in the summer when you cant lift your ball?

 

[User 105]

I done this once in a comp in my first year. Never done it since.

Always have mine distinctively marked and ALWAYS ALWAYS check my ball before I play my shot even if I'm positive it's mine.

 

[Oddsocks]

just wondering . . how would you manage to check this in the summer when you cant lift your ball?

exactly what i said blade, hickory couldnt lift it as it was in the rough anyway, you cant always see the markings, and you cant always lift to check, so how can you move forward for fear of hitting the wrong ball.

 

[MashieNiblick]

just wondering . . how would you manage to check this in the summer when you cant lift your ball?

Under Rule 12-2 you are allowed to lift your ball in order to identify it subject to certain stipulations.

12-2 - Lifting Ball for Identification

The responsibility for playing the proper ball rests with the player. Each player should put an identification mark on his ball.

If a player believes that a ball at rest might be his, but he cannot identify it, the player may lift the ball for identification, without penalty. The right to lift a ball for identification is in addition to the actions permitted under Rule 12-1.

Before lifting the ball, the player must announce his intention to his opponent in match play or his marker or a fellow-competitor in stroke play and mark the position of the ball. He may then lift the ball and identify it, provided that he gives his opponent, marker or fellow-competitor an opportunity to observe the lifting and replacement. The ball must not be cleaned beyond the extent necessary for identification when lifted under Rule 12-2.

If the ball is the player’s ball and he fails to comply with all or any part of this procedure, or he lifts his ball in order to identify it without good reason to do so, he incurs a penalty of one stroke. If the lifted ball is the player’s ball, he must replace it. If he fails to do so, he incurs the general penalty for a breach of Rule 12-2, but there is no additional penalty under this Rule.

Note: If the original lie of a ball to be replaced has been altered, see Rule 20-3b.

 

[Oddsocks]

Under Rule 12-2 you are allowed to lift your ball in order to identify it subject to certain stipulations.

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This is the point though mashie, it was the same make/model ball that he was playing, and in this instance it was exactly where he expected hes ball to be. its not like he smashed it into the woods, then found a ball of the same brand in the middle of the fairway and claimed it to be hes. the fact that the ball found was 6ft from the ball that was hit gives you a rough idea of how freak this sort of happening actually is.

Ok rules are rules, but it does amaze me how a complete genuine mistake with so many factors matching still carries a penalty. surely the rule should be adapted to have some level of common sense involved, ok we know that with this will come some sort of grey area, but the fact that the ball was less than 3 yards maximum away from the actual ball shows o me that a level of discression should be applied.

If the ball found is to be of the same condition, same make, same model & same number to that played, surely it has to be without penalty, if nothing for than for speed of play.

 

[bladeplayer]

Under Rule 12-2 you are allowed to lift your ball in order to identify it subject to certain stipulations.

12-2 - Lifting Ball for Identification

The responsibility for playing the proper ball rests with the player. Each player should put an identification mark on his ball.

If a player believes that a ball at rest might be his, but he cannot identify it, the player may lift the ball for identification, without penalty. The right to lift a ball for identification is in addition to the actions permitted under Rule 12-1.

Before lifting the ball, the player must announce his intention to his opponent in match play or his marker or a fellow-competitor in stroke play and mark the position of the ball. He may then lift the ball and identify it, provided that he gives his opponent, marker or fellow-competitor an opportunity to observe the lifting and replacement. The ball must not be cleaned beyond the extent necessary for identification when lifted under Rule 12-2.

If the ball is the player’s ball and he fails to comply with all or any part of this procedure, or he lifts his ball in order to identify it without good reason to do so, he incurs a penalty of one stroke. If the lifted ball is the player’s ball, he must replace it. If he fails to do so, he incurs the general penalty for a breach of Rule 12-2, but there is no additional penalty under this Rule.

Note: If the original lie of a ball to be replaced has been altered, see Rule 20-3b.

You couldnt be doing this every shot tho Mashie , could you ? bring on the 6 hour round eh :angry:

 

[User 105]

That's why you need to put some individual markings on with a sharpie marker or something so you know it's yours. I put something on both sides of the ball so I can easily see it no matter how it's sitting.