What's going to get us to leave the car.

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If we need to cut down on using cars then we should be encouraged/forced into alternatives. How can this be done?
 
How about restricting much of the on street parking on main roads and putting in cycle paths.

All new housing developments having compulsary cycle paths

Make more city streets pedestrian/bus/cycle only.
 
Some think the future is autonomous cars. (AC)
People won't actually own cars in the future, if they want to go somewhere they will just call an AC and the nearest one will drive to your position.
Just like a driverless taxi.
No need for car parks.
 
Park and ride schemes in cities with a hefty congestion charge for those who insist on driving in still. Widen out to the larger towns as well. There have to be alternatives methods to get in though, not just ban cars.

Somehow encourage car share schemes for commuting.

Subsidised train travel, particularly for longer journeys.

New housing estates must have dedicated cycle lanes, as must new roads. Very hard to alter existing layouts as many roads are simply not wide enough to add extra lanes. Painting new lines without widening roads is not safe.

These are off the top of my head. Interested to hear other suggestions.
 
Some think the future is autonomous cars. (AC)
People won't actually own cars in the future, if they want to go somewhere they will just call an AC and the nearest one will drive to your position.
Just like a driverless taxi.
No need for car parks.
It's a Tomorrow's World idea. How many cars have to be replaced before this becomes reality? We also like having our own transport, if we didn't then we would all be using taxis now.

It's a nice idea but i can't see it happening in the next 20 odd years at least.
 
Nothing will get us to leave the car in the present future for a long time - there will always be people who rely on the car to get them to places of work , holidays etc - how for example would we get to a golf club without cars ? Public transport is not good enough as well as being far too expensive. There are millions who need to use a car to travel to work - I don’t see how that can be replaced
 
It's a round trip of 30 minutes for my wife and I to go into town at a rough cost of £4 including parking. The bus alternative including walking to the bus stop would be a 1 hour 50 minute total travel time at a cost of nearly £9. No contest. Sorry, Greta.
 
One thing I saw on my round the world travels was electric scooters. They look fantastic. Environmentally friendly. A mile or two to work, what’s not to like. But I went to Hawaii, San Fran, Sydney, Brisbane and Singapore. The weather was nice. But would you want one here. Downside is they drive like bloody idiots both on the rd and pavements. They think they have the best of both worlds. Ironically I saw a news report the other day that they are illegal in the UK. Yet the government is looking at how to instigate them within the UK. From what I have seen it will take the carnage off the roads onto the pavement.
 
You can't.
Cars are needed to get around since the high street has been abandoned for out of town shopping. Public transport is over priced and too poorly run.
 
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One thing I saw on my round the world travels was electric scooters. They look fantastic. Environmentally friendly. A mile or two to work, what’s not to like. But I went to Hawaii, San Fran, Sydney, Brisbane and Singapore. The weather was nice. But would you want one here. Downside is they drive like bloody idiots both on the rd and pavements. They think they have the best of both worlds. Ironically I saw a news report the other day that they are illegal in the UK. Yet the government is looking at how to instigate them within the UK. From what I have seen it will take the carnage off the roads onto the pavement.
Would be interesting getting the weekly shop home on one of those.....
 
I could actually use the train on a number of days, and it wouldn't take much more than using the car. But I'd still need a car at other times so I'd still own one, and the tax, insurance and maintenance will still cost me pretty much the same each year if I use the car or the train. So it largely comes down to cost.

Cost of petrol per day, £4 maximum, train fare per day, £10. So £6 per day more to leave the car. There's your answer. I have to be on mileage to do certain aspects of my work, but this can be managed to limit it to certain days.

Incentise me so that it doesn't cost me money to to the better thing and I might. But I'd also have to consider the track record of South West Trains staff striking over the wrong colour toilet paper, or whatever this week's moan is, and then the change to the train seems even less attractive.
 
Would be interesting getting the weekly shop home on one of those.....

I think day to day you would manage. Would have to put a trailer on the back for the Friday big shop and the missis and four kids ?
 
One thing I saw on my round the world travels was electric scooters. They look fantastic. Environmentally friendly. A mile or two to work, what’s not to like. But I went to Hawaii, San Fran, Sydney, Brisbane and Singapore. The weather was nice. But would you want one here. Downside is they drive like bloody idiots both on the rd and pavements. They think they have the best of both worlds. Ironically I saw a news report the other day that they are illegal in the UK. Yet the government is looking at how to instigate them within the UK. From what I have seen it will take the carnage off the roads onto the pavement.
They are illegal on the road and pavement. You see them going into London every morning, in their dark clothes and no crash hat cutting up the traffic or nearly taking out pedestrians.
There has already been 1 death of a woman riding one in an incident with a lorry. They should be banned altogether, including their sale.
 
It's a Tomorrow's World idea. How many cars have to be replaced before this becomes reality? We also like having our own transport, if we didn't then we would all be using taxis now.

It's a nice idea but i can't see it happening in the next 20 odd years at least.

Not our generation because we like to have a car.
But as I said, the future.
No initial outlay, insurance, tax, mot, servicing, cleaning, parking.
95% of private cars aren't used for 95% of the time
 
People would need to work near to where they live, and not commute. Kids would need to go to their local nearest school.
Food can be delivered.
 
They are illegal on the road and pavement. You see them going into London every morning, in their dark clothes and no crash hat cutting up the traffic or nearly taking out pedestrians.
There has already been 1 death of a woman riding one in an incident with a lorry. They should be banned altogether, including their sale.
In and around Brisbane, Sydney. In fact everywhere I went in Oz the infrastructure is totally different. Take for example our footpaths In the UK. Wide enough for a pram and someone walking in the other direction. But in Oz they are that wide plus the same width again for bikes, scooters skate boards etc. They have been purposely built that way. I get the feeling they will be allowed in the UK but will just have to “ fit in” with out current pavements etc.
 
I had to use the train to get to work last week for a course

Normal drive at times we travel 45 mins to an hour

This journey 1 hour 45 mins door to door with spot on connections

That's 2 hours a day wasted

Cost of public transport zero

Cost of car obviously more but it's worth it for the time you save

It's why I'm looking to make my work car a Nissan leaf .. yes their are questions over is the electric supplying them sustainable but if I switch to electric the gov can do what they can to improve their side

Cost of travel will reduce without my time having to be taken up

Especially when I leave for work at 5:15am now and get in around 6.. hour before I start and the night turns love it

I'd have to get train before that and be pushing 06:45.. wouldn't go down well
 
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