What should I have done?

As far as I am aware the other player in the group did not see any of this as he had holed out and walked back to his bag..
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does anybody else think it sounds very strange that a player would make his way back to his bag without the other players having been finished the hole ..i know that we wait out of respect.. even in stableford or v par if you were out of the hole you would tend the flag til every 1 had finished , unfortunatley mate if you play with this guy again & other people know of his carry on then you will be tared with the same brush as him sorry you have me on a rant now ,,
 
cheers for the advise guys I am new to this course, to competitions, and this group of players but I have been playing long enough to know that he was cheating. I should have said something then and there but as I didn't I will just let it go this time. Next time I get drawn with him I will watch him hole everything and speak up straight away if he doesn't.

I guess I just needed a few other guys to say what he was doing is disgraceful to give me the confidence to speak up next time. Thanks again (weight off my mind)
 
As far as I am aware the other player in the group did not see any of this as he had holed out and walked back to his bag..
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does anybody else think it sounds very strange that a player would make his way back to his bag without the other players having been finished the hole ..i know that we wait out of respect.. even in stableford or v par if you were out of the hole you would tend the flag til every 1 had finished , unfortunatley mate if you play with this guy again & other people know of his carry on then you will be tared with the same brush as him sorry you have me on a rant now ,,
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Ideally, yes but not always in practice. If I've made a bit of a hash of the hole and my bag is in the wrong place, I'll start moving towards my bag to keep the course moving whilst my playing partners finish off.
 
Just out of interest, if you did have a handicap and you signed his card and YOU won the medal and he came nowhere,
What would happen then?
 
If folk think this is a difficult one to deal with then it really makes me wonder just how much 'false' golf goes on up and down the country....it really does.

Someone fails to hole out in a Medal but the guy marking his card sticks him down for 2 pars and signs his card.

New to golf or not,words fail me.
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Come on Dodger give me a little bit of slack this is the first time this situation has ever come up for me. Try and put yourself in my position for just a second
 
Just out of interest, if you did have a handicap and you signed his card and YOU won the medal and he came nowhere,
What would happen then?
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Would you get DQ'd for knowing about the offence and marking it incorrectly?
 
If folk think this is a difficult one to deal with then it really makes me wonder just how much 'false' golf goes on up and down the country....it really does.

Someone fails to hole out in a Medal but the guy marking his card sticks him down for 2 pars and signs his card.

New to golf or not,words fail me.
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Come on Dodger give me a little bit of slack this is the first time this situation has ever come up for me. Try and put yourself in my position for just a second
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I am!!

Look,how on earth did you mark him for two pars if he didn't hole out? That is the bit I cannot understand! Here is what anyone in that situation does.....mark NR on each said hole,hand him the card with NR on and signed by you and go and grab a beer.

To mark him down with 2 pars when he didn't hole out is puzzling me,what were your reasons for marking a par?

I think if you had done what you should have he would have signed it too for an NR but he is obviously an out and out cheat.
 
Although it was not a tough call. Clearly a tough situation and one that should not be exposed to at any level of the game. This is not something that I have ever come accross so I hope that you never have to deal with it in the future.

I you do, then you know what you have to do.

I think I would have just stood there with my mouth open and ask why the hell he just NR'd???
 
Not meaning o be harsh but what are you going to do about this now. Do you intend to leave it? In my experience these are the sort of things that come back to bite you on the arse. This cheat will do this again, someone will pick i up an his excuse will be 'sorry but so and so signed for it the other week so I thought it was OK' and as if my magic your name is mud in the clubhouse. Call the club, admit your mistake and deal with any consequences, at least then you can show that it was a mistake and show your own integrity.
 
To mark him down with 2 pars when he didn't hole out is puzzling me,what were your reasons for marking a par?

I think if you had done what you should have he would have signed it too for an NR but he is obviously an out and out cheat.
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Like I said I was playing so badly myself I could barely get the ball in the air by the time we were on most greens I had taken about 4 or 5 shots. It was like I was not even playing with them alot of the time so I was never 100% how many they had taken. I guess I was relying on them alot of the time to tell me what they got. I am not pleading ignorance I am just saying that I have never had to put a N/R before and my self confidence and judgement were shot to hell by my awful play.
 
Jeez,must have been bad if you missed him picking the ball out the hole...twice.

But you didn't because you stated he scooped the ball up.

Look next time just NR him,I think you must know that you have cocked up big time and the other guy is a cheat so don't let it happen again eh?
 
I simply cannoth beleive this happend in this way, i am not saying it did not happen but for anybody regardless of handicap knows you hole out in a medal and if you dont you know its an N/R...

You should have just said to him "that was a waste of a good score" when he never holed out and seen what his response was if he said "thats a par" you say "on yer bike chava".
 
I simply cannoth beleive this happend in this way, i am not saying it did not happen but for anybody regardless of handicap knows you hole out in a medal and if you dont you know its an N/R...

You should have just said to him "that was a waste of a good score" when he never holed out and seen what his response was if he said "thats a par" you say "on yer bike chava".
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing and if I could go back that is exactly what I would have done. Can you both honestly say you have never been in a situation totally out of your comfort zone when something happened and you failed to do the correct thing?
 
To be honest mate,you should not have been put in this position,if the other players ignored it,you could have mentioned it to them,and they could have kept an eye on him,your first time(and last hopefully) playing with these knobs.....
 
Irrespective of how badly you played and how many you thought he may or may not have taken by the time you joined them at the green, he did not hole out and broke the rules. My advice is to get it down in writing, phone the club tomorrow and give them your written account. After that its down to them to deal with.

I tend to agree with the point that if he does it again and says you were happy to sign the card it puts you in the wrong more than him for condoning it. Mud sticks. It doesn't matter how bad your wn game was, you knew at the time it was wrong and should have dealt with it. You didn't, but you've had it confirmed on here. Speak to the club tomorrow and get it sorted. Apart from anything else it's going to nag away at you until you do something anyway
 
I simply cannoth beleive this happend in this way, i am not saying it did not happen but for anybody regardless of handicap knows you hole out in a medal and if you dont you know its an N/R...

You should have just said to him "that was a waste of a good score" when he never holed out and seen what his response was if he said "thats a par" you say "on yer bike chava".
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing and if I could go back that is exactly what I would have done. Can you both honestly say you have never been in a situation totally out of your comfort zone when something happened and you failed to do the correct thing?
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I can actually, played with a boy last year i thought he was cheating i had not played with them before so i was new to them. I thought he was preferring his lie in the rough. i never said nout although i was not marking his card...but i was not 100 percent sure had i been 100 percent sure even though i was not marking his card he would have been informed under no uncertain terms he was a cheating B@$!!*d and would have been DQd.
 
thing is what would have happened if he had of won?

if you then went and raised it ,the crap caused would be huge

personally id call the club tomorrow

explain your new & it was only your 3rd time out you werent sure what to do as the other guy hadnt seen it and therefore no evidentiary proof and didnt feel upto challenging the guy about it at the time & was worried about being believed when reporting it later you being new with no handicap and he being a scratch player

but you know its completely wrong and that you need to bring it to the clubs attention even tho he didnt win its not right and that you cant just let it go


thats just what id do
 
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