What is happening to our world?

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pauldj42 said:
Yet our own PM (and previous) admit to being a member of a boy’ club known for trashing restaraunts snd intimidating staff etc and other Politicians (on both sides) admit to drug taking and joining in on Protest Marches, then we have the MP’s expenses scandal from a few years back.

Maybe people in positions of authority should lead by example or at least provide laws that equal and fair.

It’s like blaming the press:rolleyes: nobody is forced to buy a newspaper or watch the News, again succesive Governments could of introduced legislation to both protect the freedom of the press and make them accountable.
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When they were young, they, like the rest us, did not go around thinking that their /our actions would be dredged up by the press decades later.

If you are looking for paragons of virtue I think you will need to be doing so for a very long time.
 
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drive4show said:
I find it interesting that people try to lay the blame with politicians rather than taking responsibility for their own actions. Lots of things happen that I don't agree with but I've never felt the urge to join a riot, attack anyone or drop litter.
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I do lay some of the blame on some politicians. You and I don't have a problem with "don't do," even if we might disagree with it but there are a significant number of people who need to be led, or even deterred (controlled) by a strong 'law.' Equally, there are a number of people who just want the excuse to riot.

I dare say if we all sat down and made a list of why people do certain things we'd get plenty of different answers, all of which would be right.
 
Kaz said:
There are bigger issues, I guess, but it's the littering I always find so hard to reconcile. It takes zero effort to put your rubbish in a bin or take it home and bin it and yet so many people couldn't give two hoots. Someone else will pick it up.
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Someone made the point today regarding Bournemouth, what if the council had not picked up the 22t of rubbish yesterday. What if they had left it there? Would people arrive today and turn around after seeing it covered? It's an interesting thought.

I'm with you, I really don't get it. To dump litter is horrible, it's a mentality I can not understand.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Someone made the point today regarding Bournemouth, what if the council had not picked up the 22t of rubbish yesterday. What if they had left it there? Would people arrive today and turn around after seeing it covered? It's an interesting thought.

I'm with you, I really don't get it. To dump litter is horrible, it's a mentality I can not understand.
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22t? they collected "in excess of 50 tonnes of waste just from the beaches and promenades"

In addition to this several local groups of volunteers are out at night trying to help clear up
 
fundy said:
22t? they collected "in excess of 50 tonnes of waste just from the beaches and promenades"

In addition to this several local groups of volunteers are out at night trying to help clear up
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It was someone from the local council today who quoted 22t. 22t or 50t, it's a crazy amount, a disgusting amount.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Someone made the point today regarding Bournemouth, what if the council had not picked up the 22t of rubbish yesterday. What if they had left it there? Would people arrive today and turn around after seeing it covered? It's an interesting thought.

I'm with you, I really don't get it. To dump litter is horrible, it's a mentality I can not understand.
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Would the tide wash it away.?
And dump it somewhere else.
 
SocketRocket said:
Picture taken by a friend cycling along the Severn coast road today and this is just a small sample.

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That’s different, this pic is classic fly tipping, who takes a sink to the beach to dump?

I cannot understand the mentality of people who go to the beach and do not clear up after themselves

They should leave only footprints
 
GB72 said:
Thing is, it is easy to focus on the bigger things that can be attributed to certain groups etc and draw sweeping conclusions about types of people, nations as a whole etc but lets look closer to home. Social distancing is introduced but appears to have been largely ignored at a number of clubs, golf is banned yet videos appear of people out on the course, golf is back as 2 balls yet stories abound of groups joining up as 4 balls, ignoring social distancing etc, complaints ring out about how unfair it is to not allow 4 balls, 4 balls are permitted but complaints abound about no competition golf, people start their own competitions, clubhouses are closed so people bring beer and drink in the car park, clubhouses do takeaways and people sit in the car park eating them with their beer and thus not taking them away at all despite the rules aiming to stop people lingering around the club before or after rounds. On a smaller scale, golf clubs alone have shown all of the traits of the beach goers, the protesters and those breaking the rules by acting in a way that suits them

These are unprecedented times with stringent rules that nobody has had to contemplate before. Some will follow them strictly, some will ignore them, most will be somewhere inbetween but it is across all walks of life and across all political ideologies. Whilst we do not see it across the newspapers, I am guessing this is going on in pretty much every country across the globe. Basically, the alternative would have been to put the army on the streets and end what little economic activity we had keeping places ticking over. Not sure that would have been ideal.

My point of view, I stay good to my own conscience as to what I feel is right or wrong given my own circumstances.
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And what exactly is the problem here? When we were 2 balls only, one of our members organised a group competition, 4 groups of 6 players, singles match play, winner of each group into the semi finals. When we went to 4 balls, 2 matches would go out in one 4 ball so as not to waste 2 tee times. There's plenty of ways of organising competitions that don't fall outside the current rules.
 
PhilTheFragger said:
That’s different, this pic is classic fly tipping, who takes a sink to the beach to dump?

I cannot understand the mentality of people who go to the beach and do not clear up after themselves

They should leave only footprints
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When I was camping with the cubs/scouts, we were told the only thing you should leave behind were your thanks
 
murphthemog said:
Indeed, there seems to be a littering pandemic also.
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Hobbit said:
People are socially distancing from bins
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Sadly, it ever was so.

I used to be Chief Officer of a council Parks' Service. It used to cost us half a million quid - a quarter of our entire annual budget - to clear away the litter left behind by visitors. And yet, not a single piece of that litter came to a park of its own accord?
 
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