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Under Armour - Am i expecting to much from it?

I've noticed a common reply is base layer, polo, sweater and then a jacket/slip over. I could never play in that many layers. Im generally a player who would reduce layers at the ealiest oppertunity and that many layers always make me feel restricted.

Viscount - Its interesting you say about cheaper brands, like anything sometimes the unbranded makes can be more suited. I will have to look into Parallel, is that one of Mountain Warehouses own brands as such?

Aztecs - as above with this many layers i wouldnt expect to have to wear a jacket. my point of buying a baselayer is because i cant stand wearing a waterproof jacket. Whether it be a wind blocker or full goretex style jacket.

John Findlay - its interesting that you say a "cold breezey day", the wind sunday was shockingly cold, and with this in mind i was hard to build any heat in your body on the wind sheltered holes, so when on the open holes your body temp just dropped further.

Smiffy - Blubber, BLUBBER, id hardly call my self slim

Hopeless hacker - maybe the manufacture should offer some sort of guidence in the layering process, as it is the sales folk seem to have the impression " wear this you wont get cold " attitude which infact is total Ball-Axe

DCB - the polo was a pringle thickish 100% cotton shirt, with a callaway lambswool sweater. If, and its a big if i wear this again, would materials are you saying would be more compatible for better results. as a rule i dont feel the cold, the main thing is something that is going to keep the violent wind chill out. I have a gortex proquip jacket and a few wind sheeters but to be honest i hate wearing them,

Diesel - I know i was cold when we played, i have never been cold enough to stick a wind top on without it raining. That day was shockingly cold. Im not sure if Sunday was colder or weather this under armour top was next to useless, this is why i posted this thread incase it was me expecting miracles from the base layer, but im suprised to say it seems general view is that they are not all they are cracked up to be - dam

The Craw - id be interested in a link to the trekmates stuff

Cheers for the response guys, much appreciated even if the outcome wasnt what i would have liked.
 
I have to say I had an Under armour, cotton roll neck jumper, polo short and a woollen jumper on when I played on Saturday and I was still cold. However that wasn't to do with the air temperature but the wind and the wind chill. It was bitter and what my nan use to call a lazy wind (goes through you and not around you). When we were in sheltered spots it was perfectly comfortable.

Now I'm guessing these base layers were never designed to deal with the wind (being designed for more active sports - rugby etc) and so I'm not overly surprised I felt the cold. Had I bothered to put my Proquip waterproof top on which is designed to help in the wind no doubt I'd have been fine.
 
I hate feeling cold

When it's really cold i always wear UA base layer, then usually a GG midlayer, then either a pullover or a fleece top and then maybe a UA or GG jacket.

To date i've not found anything better than UA but i am interested in everyones opinion and will check out the alternatives mentioned on this thread.
 
So with the temps being low at the weekend (1* when we tee'd off at 9am) i went for the normal attire i would wear in such conditions only to find my trusty thermal under shirt had been left at the girlfriends. Bugger! KNowing the course has a big range of Under Armour cold gear i thought id grab a base layer when i got there.

So after the purchase i hit the course, New baselayer, Thickish Polo and lambswool sweeter equiped. I was still bloody freezing.

Now normally the same thickness polo, any of my lambswool sweaters and a thermal under vest would have done me fine, but the new base layer didnt seem to cut it. more importantly a place that i never get cold is my forearms and even these were like ice blocks.

Has anyone else had a simular experience with the base layers.

As it is im £35.00 short and not entirely happy with this purchase,
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Which model of clothing did you get Oddsocks?
 
If it's that cold, I won't bother to play nowadays. Bugger it.
Playing at East Brighton last week wasn't too bad. It was windy in places, but I was doing OK until we stopped at the half way hut for a bite to eat and a coffee.
I was bloody freezing after that, and just couldn't warm up again. Put my thermal bobble hat on once we got going again, but found it difficult to warm up. I hate wearing any sort of headgear, but on the basis that you lose most of your heat through the top of your nogging, I knew I had to put it on.
But it wasn't comfortable.
 
I hate wearing any sort of headgear, but on the basis that you lose most of your heat through the top of your nogging, I knew I had to put it on.
But it wasn't comfortable.

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Is that because you like your luscious locks to flow in the wind Rob, or because you look a knob in a tea-cosy ? :D
 
Helly Hansen base layers, buy them from your outdoor specialist, probably about a tenner cheaper than the ones I've tried from UA/Nike etc.
But here's the thing, they are streets ahead of those two.
They're warm as well as wicking, but unlike UA/Nike not as scratchy, in fact they're wonderfully soft feeling, and added bonus they are a 'named' brand (The kids tell me HH are cool)
 
Oddsocks. I'd prefer not top be referred to as 'hopeless' hacker!! It indicates no hope what-so-ever! :D


Anyway, back to business.

The layering principle is straight forward. Don'use natural fibres, especially cotton.

Layer 1.
Not essentially for thermal warmth, but more for it's wicking properties. This transfers sweat and bodily moisture away from the skin as quickly as possible. This stops the skin from feeling damp and clammy. It needs to be snug fitting to work best, and not lose and baggy. Those of a more routund nature needn't worry as no-one will see you in it! And make sure that it's long enough not to come untucked from your trousers. Obvious I know, but.........

Layer 2.
This is your warm layer, the 'thermal' bit if you like. Again preferably not from natural materials. Fleece is great for this layer. It's lightweight, and can be bought in different thicknesses. Polartec 100 being the thinnest. The only problem is if there is any kind of breeze blowing, it goes straight through these two layers, and you WILL feel cold.

Some fleeces incoporate a windproof lining or a windproof shell. Some might even be Gore-tex Windstopper with a bonded fleece or polypropylene inner. These are ideal for warmth and for keeping the wind off. Whilst minimising bulk.

An example of which I have, and it's great!

http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/apparel/windlite-fleece/

Layer 3.
Lets assume that your fleece is not of the windproof variety, as I've already mentioned, without a windproof layer you will feel cold if there's any kind of breeze.

A windproof layer can take the form of your waterproof jacket, or a typical wind proof shirt that many golf shops sell.

I've always found that if you can keep the wind away from your skin, you'll stay warm.


Now, you might be thinking, well that lot doesn't get me around the 'dress code' regarding collared polo shirts. Simple. Wear one over the base layer, but not of the cotton variety.

If you do have Galvins, Sunice or Cross waterproofs, you're doing yourself, and your wallet, an injustice by wearing cotton, and wool underneath it.

If I'm still cold after all that lot, what 2 or 3 layers, I have a thin fleece body warmer that takes care of it, but more often than not, it's only on for the first hole or two.

Sorry to have prattled on, but it's the wind that needs to be taken care of the most. If that is still blowing through your 'warm' clothing, you need to block it.
 
I suffer from the cold, as i don't have a lot of blubber! I wear M & S thermal long sleeve vest, tshirt, and a lambs wool club sweater. Played in the cold and wind on Saturday without any problems. Long johns and cotton trousers, and legs were warm as well. Not restrictive in any way.

You must wear a nice warm hat as well. Was playing foursomes so a fair bit of standing around.
 
The modern polypropylene tops are more for sports where you sweat and build up heat, winter golf doesn't really do that so they are a bit of a waste of time and money!

Cotton thermals and wool jumpers may sound old fashioned but they work!
 
The modern polypropylene tops are more for sports where you sweat and build up heat, winter golf doesn't really do that so they are a bit of a waste of time and money!

Cotton thermals and wool jumpers may sound old fashioned but they work!
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They do, but nobody wants to believe it. Perhaps they need a golfing logo before some people will wear them.
 
Now, you might be thinking, well that lot doesn't get me around the 'dress code' regarding collared polo shirts
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Does everyone still wear a polo under the other layers?

I personally don't like the feeling of a collar under a sweater or jumper, so if it's fairly certain that I won't be taking that many layers off I wear a t-shirt instead because no-one's going to see it.

Anyone think that's the wrong thing to do?
 
Cheers for the responses guys, and "hapless" my mistake and sorry, but in turn thanks for the layering advice.

Aztecs - the one I purchased was the under armour long sleeve coldgear. Now with this being the cold gear range I was expecting a lit more from it. The label clearly states " for temperatures 55* and under" well it was bloody miles under 55*, intact 37.4* ish to be exact, so the lack of heat protect was pretty poor
 
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