UK Population increase

Fader said:
If you take all benefits into account then yes financially your right, but even so that alone will not stop people procreating. Financially hitting people may have a short term impact on it but long term it would only be a mere speed bump in population growth.

What is the answer though? No idea
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The reason I restricted my family was that I could not afford more children and the benefit system was far less generous in those days. I would suggest that if we dont address this issue then living standards and the fabric of civilised society will fall as scarce resources fail to meet demand.
 
SocketRocket said:
The reason I restricted my family was that I could not afford more children and the benefit system was far less generous in those days. I would suggest that if we dont address this issue then living standards and the fabric of civilised society will fall as scarce resources fail to meet demand.
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I totally agree with you, I was merely suggesting it as a speed bump because not everyone thinks this way. Living standards and fabric of society are already changing and not for the better. Yes there is always more housing being built but the quality is not what it was, more and more councils are having to hand out further housing as not everyone working or not working can afford to get on the property ladder, and moral standards are dropping you only have to go outside these days to see that.

Whilst growth is a massive issue here but all over the world its getting worse and will keep doing so, other countries as per my first post growing at far greater rate than us and they don't have the fall back of a benefit system we do.

So again what is the answer! No idea..... Would like to find out though.
 
Fader said:
I totally agree with you, I was merely suggesting it as a speed bump because not everyone thinks this way. Living standards and fabric of society are already changing and not for the better. Yes there is always more housing being built but the quality is not what it was, more and more councils are having to hand out further housing as not everyone working or not working can afford to get on the property ladder, and moral standards are dropping you only have to go outside these days to see that.

Whilst growth is a massive issue here but all over the world its getting worse and will keep doing so, other countries as per my first post growing at far greater rate than us and they don't have the fall back of a benefit system we do.

So again what is the answer! No idea..... Would like to find out though.
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If we don't find that answer then Mother Nature will, she has before.
 
Fader said:
Well it has been a while since we've had a bubonic plaque to cull the masses :whistle:
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If you look at societies like 'Easter Island' the population was wiped out by increased population v scarce resources. Any species of life that becomes extinct (except that by external forces) will be a product of natural selection which includes the competition for scarce resources and the inability to adapt.
 
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China are looking at doing away with the one child per family. They need a bigger population of workers to pay for pensions etc, just like every where else.

At the moment, the fine for having a second child is three times gross annual salary. One of my Chinese colleagues is getting pinged by this, and he is deep in the doo dah.
 
therod said:
he's gonna post in the 'out of bounds' section !! it's how all great movements for social change start :D
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I started this post because there was a report released by the Department for National Statistics this week which was widley publicised in the press and television news. I thought it worthy of debate like most of the threads in this section of the Forum. Is that not what the section is for?
 
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bobmac said:
So what are you going to do about it ?
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Bob. I am not sure if I should ignore your comment or make a sensible answer.

If you wanted an answer then it has to be that I dont have the power to do anything much about the increased population in the UK, thats why we have politicians to manage such matters.

If you are just being sarcastic then it's not worth commenting.
 
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