UK Population increase

[SocketRocket]

The following was taken from the Guardian.

'The biggest baby boom in the UK for 40 years contributed to the country's population growing more quickly than that of any other EU country last year. The UK population reached 63.7 million in mid-2012, according to annual estimates from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), an increase of just under 420,000

Of the population growth, 61% was due to there being 254,400 more births than deaths over the period. The total of 813,200 births was the biggest number seen in the annual ONS figures since 1972.'

Should we concerned about this?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good news, I need lots of young taxpayers to enable me to keep drawing my pension.

 

[SocketRocket]

Good news, I need lots of young taxpayers to enable me to keep drawing my pension.

By the time they pay tax you will not be drawing a pension They will all be consuming your tax though.

 

[fundy]

massive problems being stored up, increased pressure being put on all infrastructure but without the necessary investment to be able to cope with the increased demand

 

[Hobbit]

Not really concerned... its cyclical. First baby boom was in the early/mid 40's, then those babies had their baby boom x years later, and so on. At each baby boom we, apparently, didn't have the resouces to cope. And here we are again, not coping... really?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I live on the edge of an area that has a population of 9 per sq mile.
The area is 600 sq miles.
Not too bothered about overcrowding really.

If I lived in Lambeth I would be though.
On telly this morning I watched a couple pay £340k at auction for a 2 bed hovel in London.

 

[fundy]

I live on the edge of an area that has a population of 9 per sq mile.
The area is 600 sq miles.
Not too bothered about overcrowding really.

If I lived in Lambeth I would be though.
On telly this morning I watched a couple pay £340k at auction for a 2 bed hovel in London.

programme was obviously a repeat from a few years ago then

 

[SocketRocket]

Not really concerned... its cyclical. First baby boom was in the early/mid 40's, then those babies had their baby boom x years later, and so on. At each baby boom we, apparently, didn't have the resouces to cope. And here we are again, not coping... really?

These booms you mention were due to things like the end of the second world war and when the population was much lower.. The current boom will probably happen every year and even increase exponentially.

 

[Fish]

Will get even bigger on the 1st January 2014 when Romanian & Bulgarian restrictions have expired!

 

[Fader]

Population increase isn't just an issue for the UK it's a massive concern for the whole world. Growth in the last 200 and bit years has multiplied 7 times beyond the growth rate of the previous 1800years! Its the single biggest factor in the issues the human race faces.

The world population in the year 1800 was around 1 billion by 2011 that had increased to 7 billion. During 2011 is was estimated that 135 million people were born and 57 million died, which means an increase in population of 78 million in the 1 year alone.

According to UN records the world population grew by 30% between 1990 & 2010, with people living longer and the numbers of births now far outweighing the number of deaths its only going to increase to the point of massive overpopulation. Strangely though that despite China alone being responsible for something like a fifth of the worlds whole population its only ranked 7th in the list of % growth in comparison to population with a 17% increase. Whereas Nigeria, Pakistan have seen phenomenal increase with 62% & 55% respectively there are couple others well into the 40+ % area. Its only places like Russia & a couple of others in Eastern block areas that are seeing a decrease in numbers overall with Russia seeing something like a 3.5% decrease.

Something does need to give to make way for the world to cope with the growth and not surprisingly in Africa growth is rising beyond any infrastructure they have in place and no matter how much aid they get from charities the growth will always be ahead of what can be built.

I've probably bored everyone with this post now but it's something that fascinates me, mabey I should get a life but if anyone is interested if you go on google and search for world development indicators you can see how virtually every country is growing.

Or at a quick glance to see how its growing theres always this one:



I'm off to find my life now!

 

[Foxholer]

Here's a documentary, I made a (small) financial contribution to, on the topic!

http://criticalmassfilm.com/

 

[Rooter]

Bring in involuntary euthanasia at 75. Problem solved. Next!!!

Politics and world problems sorted by rooter.

 

[Fader]

Bring in involuntary euthanasia at 75. Problem solved. Next!!!

Politics and world problems sorted by rooter.

Hmmm maybe rethink that idea when your 74 knowing a year left on your clock but have adoring grand kiddies around your ankles.

Here's a documentary, I made a (small) financial contribution to, on the topic!

http://criticalmassfilm.com/

:thup: like that

 

[Foxholer]

Bring in involuntary euthanasia at 75. Problem solved. Next!!!

Politics and world problems sorted by rooter.

Ever see Logan's Run?

 

[SocketRocket]

Ever see Logan's Run?

Yes. I still have dreams of Jessica_9

 

[Iaing]

Child benefit payable only for the first child would help.

 

[SocketRocket]

Child benefit payable only for the first child would help.

Payable on none would be better.

 

[Fader]

Child benefit payable only for the first child would help.

Not really! As Child benefit in the grand scheme of things isn't a great deal on a weekly basis after the 1st child amount that helps!

 

[SocketRocket]

Not really! As Child benefit in the grand scheme of things isn't a great deal on a weekly basis after the 1st child amount that helps!

If you take into consideration child benefit, tax credits and all the other benefits available it encourages those that could not support children if they worked to produce more. Mick Philpott comes to mind.

 

[Fader]

If you take into consideration Child benefit, tax credits and all the other benefits available it encourages those that cannot afford to have children to produce more.

If you take all benefits into account then yes financially your right, but even so that alone will not stop people procreating. Financially hitting people may have a short term impact on it but long term it would only be a mere speed bump in population growth.

What is the answer though? No idea