• We'd like to take this opportunity to wish you a Happy Holidays and a very Merry Christmas from all at Golf Monthly. Thank you for sharing your 2025 with us!

Transfer rumours

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted Member 1156
  • Start date Start date
pauldj42 said:
It's not being silly at all, he was making the point of how playing for a championship side in the championship would be good for his development, in other words making excuses for their failure to come up and trying to hold on to their brightest prospect.
Click to expand...

Now your twisting my words. I never said I was making excuses for Fulham not coming up. They were beaten over two legs by a side with a plan they stuck to and executed well enough. I am saying if he goes to a top PL side as has been rumoured (and this is a rumour thread) he'll be limited in playing time, highly likely to go on loan and I suggested that may be to any side, not just a championship side. He fits our system well and has had a good season but Pin-Seeker has it right. Show me where I made excuses for our failure?
 
pauldj42 said:
It's not being silly at all, he was making the point of how playing for a championship side in the championship would be good for his development, in other words making excuses for their failure to come up and trying to hold on to their brightest prospect.
Click to expand...

Making excuses for their failure?
How?
If he was to leave for footballing reasons alone I reckon a move to someone like Southampton would be good.
See it as a stepping stone & see what happens.(no disrespect to Southampton).
 
Pin-seeker said:
Making excuses for their failure?
How?
If he was to leave for footballing reasons alone I reckon a move to someone like Southampton would be good.
See it as a stepping stone & see what happens.(no disrespect to Southampton).
Click to expand...

TBF if he wants to play for Liverpool long term. Signing for us would be the perfect route.

That said, with Bertrand and Targett plus Sam McQueen being an able understudy i wouldn't fancy his chances of game time.
 
Papas1982 said:
TBF if he wants to play for Liverpool long term. Signing for us would be the perfect route.

That said, with Bertrand and Targett plus Sam McQueen being an able understudy i wouldn't fancy his chances of game time.
Click to expand...

Fair point.
I was using you as an example.
I doubt he'll want to play for Liverpool long term tho 😁
 
2 new wing backs, sign Bruno Martins Indi Permanently.
New defensive midfielder.
Either an attacking midfielder or keep Bojan.
Back up winger.

keep Jack Butland at all costs.
 
For those saying that Sessegnon will just sit on a bench somewhere, it probably depends on where he'll go.

Chelsea - Probably, as champions they dont have to take a gamble, and can he play wing back.

Spurs - currently 4 great full backs, so yes he would, unless they sell some.

City - may start in the first team, as City need their defence overhauling.

Liverpool - If Moreno goes, and Milner is mainly a back up option (or goes back into midfield) may be first choice,

Arsenal - With only Gibbs as competition, could be a good move, but how many defenders has Arsene improved?

United - Mourinho does develop defenders, but mainly the tall ones. If Shaw goes, and Darmian isnt flavour of the month, could get a look in.

Maybe it all depends on where he goes, rather than his age, ability etc.

Old enough, good enough - Delle Alli?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Now your twisting my words. I never said I was making excuses for Fulham not coming up. They were beaten over two legs by a side with a plan they stuck to and executed well enough. I am saying if he goes to a top PL side as has been rumoured (and this is a rumour thread) he'll be limited in playing time, highly likely to go on loan and I suggested that may be to any side, not just a championship side. He fits our system well and has had a good season but Pin-Seeker has it right. Show me where I made excuses for our failure?
Click to expand...

You've still failed to answer the original question?

I purposely used the word failure to get a reaction.

I'll try again,

If you had been promoted, would you have advocated Fulham giving up one of their brightest stars to a championship side so he'd of gained the experience and growth you stated would be to his benefit?


As I and now Pete has put, if he's good enough, he's old enough.

It will be irrelevant which PL side he joins, if any, the facilities and level of footballer he would be training with would be a step up from a championship side.
 
pauldj42 said:
You've still failed to answer the original question?

I purposely used the word failure to get a reaction.

I'll try again,

If you had been promoted, would you have advocated Fulham giving up one of their brightest stars to a championship side so he'd of gained the experience and growth you stated would be to his benefit?


As I and now Pete has put, if he's good enough, he's old enough.

It will be irrelevant which PL side he joins, if any, the facilities and level of footballer he would be training with would be a step up from a championship side.
Click to expand...

IMG_5563.JPG

Chill out Paul,this is just a thread about potential transfers.

But if he doesn't answer you a 3rd time you could always try water boarding him 😁
 
SaintHacker said:
Jungle drums are rumbling down here that the manager is on his way (fingers crossed)
Click to expand...

You don't rate him then Paul? I think he's done alright for a first season, especially as we lost some key players at the start of the season and unlucky with a few injuries this year (Van Dijk and Austin in particular)
 
drive4show said:
You don't rate him then Paul? I think he's done alright for a first season, especially as we lost some key players at the start of the season and unlucky with a few injuries this year (Van Dijk and Austin in particular)
Click to expand...

Think austin was the biggest loss as we had no focal point.

Lots of quick wingers. But none good eniugh finishers.
 
drive4show said:
You don't rate him then Paul? I think he's done alright for a first season, especially as we lost some key players at the start of the season and unlucky with a few injuries this year (Van Dijk and Austin in particular)
Click to expand...

Nope, lost faith in him when we went out of the europa league like we did, we should have breezed through that group but Mr Negative put paid to that. The football is boring, defensive tripe on the whole. He constantly plays players out of position, rotates players for no real reason, won't play proven goalscorers as they don't seem to fit into his system, whatever that is. The list goes on. Its a no from me!
 
SaintHacker said:
Nope, lost faith in him when we went out of the europa league like we did, we should have breezed through that group but Mr Negative put paid to that. The football is boring, defensive tripe on the whole. He constantly plays players out of position, rotates players for no real reason, won't play proven goalscorers as they don't seem to fit into his system, whatever that is. The list goes on. Its a no from me!
Click to expand...

not to argue the toss as you get to far more games than me now mate. But what proven striker does he not play?

re the europa. I thought we actually outplayed the oppo in all the games and were unfortunate (naive).
 
Papas1982 said:
not to argue the toss as you get to far more games than me now mate. But what proven striker does he not play?

re the europa. I thought we actually outplayed the oppo in all the games and were unfortunate (naive).
Click to expand...

Shane Long and Jay Rodriguez. Ok you could argue Jay hasn't been the same since his injury, but how can he be expected to get back to form when he isn't given a decent run in the side?

re the Europa, I disagree, we should have beaten Sparta home and away, be'er sheva away and to go out to tham at home like we did was unforgiveable.
 
SaintHacker said:
Shane Long and Jay Rodriguez. Ok you could argue Jay hasn't been the same since his injury, but how can he be expected to get back to form when he isn't given a decent run in the side?

re the Europa, I disagree, we should have beaten Sparta home and away, be'er sheva away and to go out to tham at home like we did was unforgiveable.
Click to expand...

I agree we should have beaten those side. But in my mind that was down to us wasting chances. I thought tactically we did ok but once the players crossed the line they missed chances. Just had a look back at em. We had more possession and chances than the opponents in every single game. PLayers at fault more than manager there imo.

Will have to agree to disagree in regards forwards. I like Rodriguez but for me, neither him or Long are viable options as strikers. They are great second strikers. But both lack the instinct to be the main man imo. I'd be surprised if either average a goal more than 1 in 4.

Rod has had chances. But If you don't take em early you can't live on borrowed time. He has such bad injuries that a manager will also subconsciously start to plan for life without them too.

I'd rather of had Gallagher back so we could at least have a focal point. If Austin AND Gabi can manage 38 starts between em next season. That would be a start.

Who would you have replace Puel? My mates all fancy Marco Silva.
 
Last edited:
SaintHacker said:
hasn't been the same since his injury, but how can he be expected to get back to form when he isn't given a decent run in the side?.
Click to expand...

This is always a double edge sword.

The pressure on wining and picking up points is huge on any manager, they see far more than us on the training grounds and hear back from the physios and back room staff daily.

Yes coming back from injury does need game time and match fitness to gain ful recovery but at what risk and for how long?

If you gave a player a 'decent run' after coming back from injury and he was instrumental in errors costing the game, do you carry on selecting him hoping he'll get through it or do you give him 10 minutes at the end of the game if it's won already or clearly lost by then and nuture him in?

I'd personally play them in the reserves, if there's such a thing now and build them back up,

It's a results based sport and you'd hammer the manager if the player coming back from injury cost you a game for playing him too early.

damned if you do and damned if you don't!
 
Fish said:
This is always a double edge sword.

The pressure on wining and picking up points is huge on any manager, they see far more than us on the training grounds and hear back from the physios and back room staff daily.

Yes coming back from injury does need game time and match fitness to gain ful recovery but at what risk and for how long?

If you gave a player a 'decent run' after coming back from injury and he was instrumental in errors costing the game, do you carry on selecting him hoping he'll get through it or do you give him 10 minutes at the end of the game if it's won already or clearly lost by then and nuture him in?

I'd personally play them in the reserves, if there's such a thing now and build them back up,

It's a results based sport and you'd hammer the manager if the player coming back from injury cost you a game for playing him too early.

damned if you do and damned if you don't!
Click to expand...

It's also harsh to pin it on Puel too imo. This was Jay's second comeback. For us his record is:
35/6
33/15
12/0
18/4

So he was given more opportunities this time than by koeman. When it could be argued he didn't warrant them
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Dan2501
How to Act like a Tour Pro
Replies
9
Views
5K
delc
delc
Birchy
North West OOM 2014 Player auction
7 8 9
Replies
162
Views
22K
garyinderry
garyinderry
bozza
Darren Bent hands in transfer request.
2
Replies
29
Views
2K
madandra
madandra
Top