Today's HOC Vote

Ethan said:
Corbin has no more links to the IRA than most recent Governments. He wanted to help the peace process and wanted to get the confidence of Sinn Fein i order to bring influence to bear. As DFT has pointed out, this sort of thing is part of the process.
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You know this how. His take on this given his open actions was one of support for a terrorist organization. His actions were open to misinterpretation if this was the case, but he never in the past suggested otherwise.

You keep going on about the secret government talks that were going on (for reasons any person could work out, yet you advocate talking rather than bombing with the major players involved in supporting IS. For all we know this could be already happening, and for very obvious reason would be carried out in secret until some kind of agreement can be made.

This is the way most major conflicts have been ended in the past so your continued reference to the secret talks held by "Mr Thatchers Government " is nothing more than a red herring and it was "HM Government " by the way.
 
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I just made the mistake of Googling Raqqi and then going to images!
Truly horrific ........................... you have been warned!
These 'people' must be stopped.

Slime.

P.S. I cannot over stress how disgusting some of the images are.
 
Old Skier said:
You know this how. His take on this was given his open actions that were all to well published tell a story that could well lead to misinterpretation.

You keep going on about the secret government talks that were going on (for reasons any person could work out, yet you advocate talking rather than bombing with the major players involved in supporting IS. For all we know this could be already happening, and for very obvious reason would be carried out in secret until some kind of agreement can be made.

This is the way most major conflicts have been ended in the past so your continued reference to the secret talks held by "Mr Thatchers Government " is nothing more than a red herring and it was "HM Government " by the way.
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Well, just to point out one important difference - Sinn Fein wanted talks with the U.K. Govt. Many here have pointed out that IS do not want to talk.
 
Ethan said:
Well, just to point out one important difference - Sinn Fein wanted talks with the U.K. Govt. Many here have pointed out that IS do not want to talk.
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Who mention d talking to IS, I thought you were on about having talks, I presumed you wanted talks with those who might be involved in supporting IS, if not who do you suggest these talks are with.
 
ColchesterFC said:
If he has no more links than most recent governments perhaps you can tell me which recent governments have attended IRA fund raising events and stood in silence to remember dead IRA terrorists then?

And why do you get to decide what I can or can't question about him? I will question whatever I want to whether you like it or not. In my view Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser along with Ken Livingstone.
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You are indeed full of questions. Not so many answers, sadly.
 
Ethan said:
Well, just to point out one important difference - Sinn Fein wanted talks with the U.K. Govt. Many here have pointed out that IS do not want to talk.
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Sinn Fein also started to make noises that they had distanced themselves from the IRA and then up popped Adams & McGuinness, to men it appears who were responsible for hundreds of civilian dead, as leading members of Sinn Fein.
 
Old Skier said:
Sinn Fein also started to make noises that they had distanced themselves from the IRA and then up popped Adams & McGuinness, to men it appears who were responsible for hundreds of civilian dead, as leading members of Sinn Fein.
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You are using 'it appears' as code for 'totally speculating'. Oh dear, you know how much Liverpoolphil hates speculation. In the interests of avoiding hypocrisy, I expect he will be along shortly to correct you.
 
Ethan said:
You are using 'it appears' as code for 'totally speculating'. Oh dear, you know how much Liverpoolphil hates speculation. In the interests of avoiding hypocrisy, I expect he will be along shortly to correct you.
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Let's not start to get snidey Ethan

All I of was ask for some clarification on some of your statements - like "The CIA knew there were no WMD in Iraq"
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Let's not start to get snidey Ethan

All I of was ask for some clarification on some of your statements - like "The CIA knew there were no WMD in Iraq"
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You say snidey. I say consistent.

I can bring more evidence that the CIA knew there were no WMD that he can that Adams and McGuinness are responsible for hundreds of deaths.
 
Ethan said:
You are using 'it appears' as code for 'totally speculating'. Oh dear, you know how much Liverpoolphil hates speculation. In the interests of avoiding hypocrisy, I expect he will be along shortly to correct you.
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More to do with it being someone else's site and as such would be open to legal issues. Anyone with half a brain knows what really went on with those two.
 
Ethan said:
You say snidey. I say consistent
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Snidey in the way it's presented on the forum

Yes people can speculate and form opinions etc - happened regualry in the debate

It's when that speculation has been presented as proven factual information - just like the statement in regards the CIA -

If that was true then I'm not sure why people haven't arrested etc - hence why i asked for the factual evidence ( still hasn't appeared )
 
Ethan said:
You are indeed full of questions. Not so many answers, sadly.
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I apologise. I should have used your tactic and refused to answer because the question was hypothetical or presupposes something. Unlike yourself I've tried to answer any question put to me rather than hiding behind a refusal to answer or insulting the person asking the question as you like to do when you don't like the question.
 
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