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Tiger - could it be about to get worse?

Its all speculation, we dont know.

BUT, for anyone in HIS position, with HIS wealth, and HIS repuation, and HIS skill, it just seems a strangely sad coincidence that he has been even remotely involved, or even spoken to, a chap with a distinctly dodgy reputation and association with 'performance related substances'. No ?

As said, Add in the bulking up, the sullen beahiour, the tantrums and petulance, and the rather strange womanising behaviour, (quite possibly linked to increased testosterone levels ?), and it doesnt all head in the right direction for him does it ?

I might be wrong, but where there's smoke, there's usually a flame, and before this fire is put out, I get the feeling its got a helluva lot of burning to do.
 
Has anyone heard of any statements of denial or threats from Tiger's lawyers to sue? If someone had 'slurred' my reputation like this then I would be quick to get my denial in as the longer there is silence, the more people start to believe it as true.
 
Okay, reading this one with interest. A year or two ago a good friend of mine, a very fit individual, and when I mean fit I mean seriously fit with an amazing recovery rate and an even more amazing low heart rate at rest. When I was flicking through his telly he mentioned “you cannot get a body like that so quickly without being on something” now I never gave it a second thought, but many years ago I worked with a few guys who were seriously into building muscle including the guy I mentioned above.

You see, to build up muscle you have to hurt it first. In other words you have to pull enough weight to break down the fibre in the muscle. You don’t feel it that day, it’s usually about 24 hours later when you get muscle ache. What happening is the muscle is repairing itself and at the same time it is trying to build up to cope with that extra weight that you pulled the previous day. More to the point, when that ache goes away you can do it all again with a little more weight and on goes that cycle of ache, repair and muscle build. The big draw back being it takes a long while going through this process to build up this kind of bulk considering you have to wait for each muscle region to recover before slamming the weights again. Most guys, who are seriously into this, work on different muscle groups each night, while giving one group the time to repair and build you hurt another group to keep the cycle going as fast as possible. The other thing is gradually increasing the amount of weight you pull as this keeps the muscle breakdown and build up cycle going.

While this is going on you have to intake much more calories, protein and other supplements to help the muscle repair and rebuild.

My point is, if you do this naturally it take a few years to build up a physique like Tiger has. More importantly to do this would incur repeated muscle ache that would make me doubt the ability to swing a club. Now before anyone jumps at me, I’ve done this myself. Yes 64 kg Tommo went to 72 kg in a two year period all done with hard work in the gym. Not much I know, but I would need to continue for about another two years to get a really good physique. That was a long time ago, but one thing I know for sure, while doing this there were days I would never be able to swing a club. Its the nature of building muscle, you have to hurt it in a controlled but deliberately way first.

So do I think Tiger was on a steroid type drug to get that physique while still playing golf to a high standard………I don’t know, but I do know one thing, to build up your muscles takes a long while (years) doing it naturally. It takes a lot of hard work and lots of time and more importantly, it takes a lot of pain and recovery time when you cant do anything strenuous. If ever there was a saying that was made for this subject, it’s “no gain without pain”.
 
Im firmly with Tommo on this one....I weight trained myself for 10 years while playing football and i trained with guys that were bodybuilding for there sport it takes a hell of alot of discipline patience and time to build a body NATURALLY than it does to be chemically assisted in some way and what my friends that were bodybuilding said that no matter how hard i trained in the gym to put size and weight up it would never happen while i was playing football as what i was doing in the gym 5 days a week was cancelled out in 1 game of ball and a couple of training sessions a week.....
I guess where this applies to tiger is with the amount of golf and exercise he is getting he'd have to be doing a fair amount of heavy lifting in the gym and eating right and also the soreness would not be able to be avoided
 
I dont doubt that someone could build up naturally, I personally have always been a well built guy, and whenever I did work out, I bulked easily, and even now at 47, I've kept a lot of that muscle mass.
I was about 14.5st when I left school, and am now 15.5, so its down to your body shape to a large degree.

The thing is, TW was never my kind of shape, and was more the athlete build, so for him to bulk as he has done, whilst being 'linked' in some way to Mr Performance Drugs, it just does throw up the inevitable suspicions, and as I said, where there's smoke........

I maintain, there is a looooong way for this story to run yet, and as mentioned too, just where are his big shot Legal team spouting all kinds of denial's after the LA Times piece.

Its as if he's gone underground as he knows whats coming and just hasnt got the stomach to face it all.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, .....but............*shakes head* .....it doesnt look good.
 
But Tiger working out is not a new thing he has done it all his career the difference being he was always playing golf so the eight months he had off he was simply working on his fitness alone.

Ive heard it was the rowing machine and some other excersise that involves the in out motion ;)
 
if u go onto his web site and try and find out his training regime ..u only get his daily schedule but not his actual fitness programme ..why not !! what`s he got to hide !he maybe doesn`t want to reveal what his programme is in case other pro`s could copy it ..i`ve heard he does lots of `reps ` with a light weight ,but that wouldn`t give u the mass that he has ..so it doesn`t add up ..i think a lot of people have suspected this for a long time ,but just scared of any legal action ;)
 
Tiger did go from being a stick thin bean pole to being ripped, and that may not be all gym work. I am stick thin, and no amount of exercise will make me look like Tiger.

On the other hand, if I was seeing 30 odd ladies, I would need performance enhancing drugs too. May be he wasn't taking them for golf.
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Surely he should switch from Nike, to Viagra to improve his game, maybe a stiff shaft would help. ;)
 
For God's sake. Please remember that the libel laws in the States are completely different to the UK. The LA Times story is fair comment in the the US. Have any UK newspapers printed one word of it? A quick Google UK-based news search reveals not one word. Essentially you can say and print what you like in the US under the banner of freedom of speech. It doesn't prove that it's true.
 
Probably the single most dull, pointless, rumour fuelled thread imagineable. Is this a golf forum or Loose Women??

The truth will out eventually and IF there is any truth in it he'll, quite rightly, be hanged by the balls for all to gloat "I told you so!"

A lot of people need to get a grip of themselves. Must be the cold weather freezing that brain cell.
 
Whether the allegations are true or not, I don't know.

For those who insisted that "Golf needs Tiger" - yeh! Like a hole in the head.

:D :D
 
Have any UK newspapers printed one word of it?
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Of course not - check the Guardian, for example:

Tiger Woods has won an injunction banning the British media from reporting new details about his personal life after instructing London-based lawyers to take legal action.
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