This country's a flippin carpark

Driving is a chore in this neck of the woods. Quite why is probably a number of reasons. It cant be helped by the poor public transport system.
 
Roadworks on the A329 and many of the main roads around Bracknell means that a 20-30 minute drive to and from work is taking 45-60 minutes on some days. Even worse once you hit the M4 which is a car park both ways most mornings as I go over it and I would hate to do the M3 from the Bracknell junction with the average speed cameras. As for the M25.... I admire anyone that manages to do that every day and remain sane
 
In fairness to Doon I notice as well the further south I drive the worse the drivers seem to get.

Is it a coincidence that the roads get more congested and undisciplined as you get into the South/South East. There happens to be quite a lot of people living there.
 
I left London in 1989 to move Upt North. I've really noticed the explosion in traffic numbers down south over the last 12 years or so.
Every time I drive to my mums in South London it takes longer on each journey. Back in 1992 with stopping from Newcastle used to be able to do it in 5 hours, distance 325 miles. Now no chance it's now 6+.
The problem is the influx and migration to London and the South East, purely whether you like it or not due to jobs and opportunity
 
Last weekend I drove to eurodisney .... In France (on the whole) the cars all sat in the inside lane and all "snaked" around whatever was being over taken moved back in.

When we got back to Folkstone the m20 was busy..... Well the middle and fast lanes were. The inside lane not at all. To the point that I would have undertaken literally dozens of cars if I continued along at 70mph.

Poor lane discipline, I believe, is epidemic in this country. The pure arrogance of some drivers is outstanding, I'd hate to be in a driving job.
 
Another post that reeks of anti-English racism, or more accurately anti-southern-English Racism. Do you honestly believe it's only southern English that have poor Motorway Lane discipline. You really are a stupid man.

Get back in your box very angry man.

I was commenting on drivers on Southern English motorways.....I have no idea of the nationality of the drivers.
Perhaps, as one of your few pals on here indicated, they are all 'immigrants'.
 
Is it a coincidence that the roads get more congested and undisciplined as you get into the South/South East. There happens to be quite a lot of people living there.

No not at all, I drive down to my brothers house in Uxbridge on weekends when it's quieter. Cars seem to stick to the outside lanes more when I get further south. It's weird but certainly noticeable.
 
My lads a class one driver, he was on about J25 on the M1 north. It goes from 3 to 4 lanes, but hardly anyone Uses the inside lane, that's nigh on empty but 3 and 4 are rammed. You can spend billions on smart motorways, but a lot of drivers are not smart, if the motorways have six lanes. It would still be the same.
 
Did not time my journey from Southhampton to Oxford last night but we had issues on the M25 being closed from J10 to J11 ... Which is a nightmare stretch having no parallel links. We then wound our way up to Beaconsfield via M4 Slough because the M40 was closed coming out of London.
Thankfully the disco is a floating armchair and automatic.
By the way progressing up the inside lane can be done but you have the trucks to deal with and diving out into the middle lane requires speed management. I suspect the outside lane is preferred because the speed can be maintained if braking distances are respected ( which they aren't )...
 
My lads a class one driver, he was on about J25 on the M1 north. It goes from 3 to 4 lanes, but hardly anyone Uses the inside lane, that's nigh on empty but 3 and 4 are rammed. You can spend billions on smart motorways, but a lot of drivers are not smart, if the motorways have six lanes. It would still be the same.

Bang on mate, total waste of time making it 4 lanes as everyone just seems to migrate to the right by one lane, then you have lorries in the 3rd lane which again defeats the object.
 
:o Just saying like.........today.

Turnberry to North Berwick am 2 hours 20 mins
North Berwick to Turnberry pm 2 hours 30 mins

About 130 mile journey and despite the 20 mile stretch of roadworks on the M8 east of Glasgow + all within the speed limit.

Nae care parks up here.:lol:
 
Maybe that's because you could get the entire population of Scotland inside the M25 with room to spare.
180 mile trip today from Wirral back to home.
Free run all the way until Silverstone...crawled past Bicester then clear to Take.
The world wanted to go to Oxford or Bicester village....
The south is full.
 
Did not time my journey from Southhampton to Oxford last night but we had issues on the M25 being closed from J10 to J11 ... Which is a nightmare stretch having no parallel links. We then wound our way up to Beaconsfield via M4 Slough because the M40 was closed coming out of London.
Thankfully the disco is a floating armchair and automatic.
By the way progressing up the inside lane can be done but you have the trucks to deal with and diving out into the middle lane requires speed management. I suspect the outside lane is preferred because the speed can be maintained if braking distances are respected ( which they aren't )...


Why on earth are you going from Southampton to Oxford via the M25, its utter madness

You should have gone M3 to Winchester then A34 and keep going till you bump into Oxford, its about 65 miles compared to well over 100 your way, mostly dual carriageway

Just sayin :)
 
Why on earth are you going from Southampton to Oxford via the M25, its utter madness

You should have gone M3 to Winchester then A34 and keep going till you bump into Oxford, its about 65 miles compared to well over 100 your way, mostly dual carriageway

Just sayin :)

I am never going North via the A34 past Newbury again, nightmare road.
Down to Swindon on the M4 then the A419 to M5 at Gloucester now generally much quicker.
 
I am never going North via the A34 past Newbury again, nightmare road.
Down to Swindon on the M4 then the A419 to M5 at Gloucester now generally much quicker.

Yeah Swindon to Oxford via the M5 makes even more sense

I was referring to a specific journey (Southampton - Oxford) which the OP said was "Last Night" so he possibly ran into some night roadworks on the 25/40, I know the A34 has its problems at peak times, but this sounded off peak to me
 
The not using the inside lane gets on my wick as well.
Also, when did the highway code change, so that people no longer use their mirrors, signal, wait for a gap and then move out to overtake on motorways. The new rule appears to just ask you to indicate as a token gesture and go regardless without properly checking - the number of people that just signal & go is getting silly now and dangerous as well!
Also, another rule change appears to mean that cars no longer need to indicate when they are going all the way round the roundabout, just to indicate when they come off (or not bother at all).
As has been said a few times, no one gives a toss about anybody else on the road - too much "I'm alright Jack" going on
 
Have you not been on the M8 after 4.30 PM during the week???

Plenty times, but it's nothing compared to the volume of traffic down south.
In 20 years I can only recall a couple of proper 'jams'.
ECB tends to be worse than Glasgow.

last time we went into Glasgow for a gig, it took almost an hours to go a couple of Junctions in the city centre. it was like wacky races.

TBH Inversneck is gridlocked most evenings, but only lasts an hour unless one of the canal bridges gets stuck.
 
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