bozza
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The use of the word "banter"
The use of the term "epic fail"
Liverpool FC
The use of the word "banter"
The use of the term "epic fail"
Controversial subject so, if only to slow you down before the next list, what's it to you if someone prefers not to wear a helmet?
Controversial subject so, if only to slow you down before the next list, what's it to you if someone prefers not to wear a helmet?
If they were to have an accident & become, for instance, brain damaged, what sort of an impact do you think that would have on their friends and family, just for the sake of vanity.
I find it very selfish and unnecesarily stupid. Where's the harm in wearing a helmet?
Slime.
Well, drivers tend to give even less room to cyclists wearing helmets than those who aren't and since you're unlikely to fall off on the road unless someone hits you it's arguable that you're safer not wearing one.
Personally, I usually wear one but I'm under no illusions about the limited help it will give me in a typical car v bike accident so I completely respect anyone who chooses not to.
I was thinking more along the lines of pot-hole -v- bike accident, dog running into the road -v- bike accident or the cyclist simply causing his own accident by losing concentration, caught by a gust of wind, alarmed by the sudden close proximity of a speeding car/bus/lorry or clipping a curb for instance.............it does happen.
Slime.
P.S. I totally respect your views, I just choose to disagree.
(Because I'm right).![]()
Well, drivers tend to give even less room to cyclists wearing helmets than those who aren't and since you're unlikely to fall off on the road unless someone hits you it's arguable that you're safer not wearing one.
Personally, I usually wear one but I'm under no illusions about the limited help it will give me in a typical car v bike accident so I completely respect anyone who chooses not to.
Speaking as a lapsed motorcyclist I would point out that this was the argument put forward in the early 70's by those opposed to the compulsory wearing of crash helmets by motor bikers.
It was twaddle then and remains twaddle now!
Both cyclists and their powered brethren are remarkably vulnerable and to believe that motorists will somehow subliminally take greater care if a cyclist isn't wearing a helmet is naive at best, dangerously stupid at worst.
The number of times I was told by motorists "Sorry mate, didn't see you." makes me rather sceptical that they might have seen me had I not been wearing a helmet.
Can't quote the research unfortunately but it's definitely been proven that motorists tend to give unhelmeted cyclists more room. Of course that doesn't mean it applies to all motorists.
I'm also a motorcyclist and the difference in speeds involved mean its not the same thing at all.
Speed is largely irrelevant, many motorists failed to see me even in slow moving traffic.Your quoted research would imply that motorists somehow see cyclists but then dismiss them if they are helmeted.
Sorry but I am unconvinced that the human brain would be that selective in such a short space of time, even allowing for the cyclists (sometimes) slower speed.
This is a subject close to home as I have several close friends alive today because of the clothing they wear and their helmet when riding so I think rules should be tighter. I'll add that these friends are bloody stupid and were in accidents as a result of their actions, some of which are included below:
My biggest gripes are bikers who think its their right to hurtle past you at 3 figures then moan about you not leaving enough room for them to ride the central white lines when their is traffic. Screw them, they should get in lane like the rest of us.
And cyclists, I hate those that ignore road signals and skip red lights, and those who switch between road and path to suit. Get on the road and ruddy stay there. Also stop leaning on my car when you do decide to stop at lights before I charge you for a wash and wax
I appreciate idiots are in the minority and there are just as many car driving idiots but if bikers and cyclists want road respect, they can earn it.
Would appear that you are a trifle jealous of the motorcyclist's ability to get ahead of traffic queues whilst you, like the rest of us, are stuck in your tin-box. Hope you don't take that level of aggression with you on to the roads.