The Davis Cup

the smiling assassin said:
In the grand scheme of things, I rate Murray's career achievements well above those of the Olympic champs mentioned for me. Nothing to take away from their achievements, but hanging around the pinnacle of a mainstream sport like tennis and winning the major titles he's won is a step above the likes of Hoy and co. in my opinion. Big fish in a vast pond versus a big fish in a comparatively small pond.
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Isn't riding a bike a pastime, not a sport.:whistle:

Murray has been unlucky to come up against three of the best ever players. He beat Djokovic and Federer to win his three big indivdual titles. Not sure who came second to Hoy.:whistle:
 
Sorry but I simply don't see the Davis Cup as a reason to make Murray into some kind of player akin to Federer, Borg, Nadal et al. He's done a lot but he's not won as much as he could/should have and it's a team event, not a one one man band and others have had to contribute. I simply don't see it the way others do on here
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Sorry but I simply don't see the Davis Cup as a reason to make Murray into some kind of player akin to Federer, Borg, Nadal et al. He's done a lot but he's not won as much as he could/should have and it's a team event, not a one one man band and others have had to contribute. I simply don't see it the way others do on here
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Say what???!
 
Great stuff. Fantastic result. Great reaction from Murray, loved the emotion. Too much sport these days lacks that raw emotion and joy. Shows how much it means to him. Ultimately that is what makes sport important: what it means to people. Because essentially it is futile when you take away the import that people put on it.

As for Murray compared to Federer / Redgrave etc, who cares. Just bask in the moment. It might not happen again for a long time.
 
Tongo said:
Great stuff. Fantastic result. Great reaction from Murray, loved the emotion. Too much sport these days lacks that raw emotion and joy. Shows how much it means to him. Ultimately that is what makes sport important: what it means to people. Because essentially it is futile when you take away the import that people put on it.

As for Murray compared to Federer / Redgrave etc, who cares. Just bask in the moment. It might not happen again for a long time.
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Exactly that. Fantastic achievement. Well done team GB.

Slime.
 
The LTA have made many many millions from Wimbledon over the years and have been negligent in their appointments, and their ability to find almost zero talent.
 
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It's fairly damning. I can't understand how we can't develop young talent because surely it must be around? Where do these youngsters go? Is our tennis coaching so poor that any decent player just doesn't develop? How come they don't go to places such as coaching academies in the US?
 
Piece said:
It's fairly damning. I can't understand how we can't develop young talent because surely it must be around? Where do these youngsters go? Is our tennis coaching so poor that any decent player just doesn't develop? How come they don't go to places such as coaching academies in the US?
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The US aren't exactly overflowing with top level male tennis players either.
 
Tongo said:
The US aren't exactly overflowing with top level male tennis players either.
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What I meant is that some other nations, lets say Russia for example, used to (or still do?) ship their kids off the US tennis academies and they emerged from there. I'm not up to date with tennis activities but that was what used to happen...?
 
Piece said:
What I meant is that some other nations, lets say Russia for example, used to (or still do?) ship their kids off the US tennis academies and they emerged from there. I'm not up to date with tennis activities but that was what used to happen...?
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Possibly. Dont know how that works financially etc. Didnt Judy Murray take Andy off to Spain to improve his chances when he was younger?

The upshot is that Tennis still has an elite ethos in this country and it is a crime that the sport's biggest event is held in England with such poor domestic results. Until that attitude changes Britain wont produce decent players unless they do it independently of the LTA. We were in Spain a couple of years ago and saw tennis courts everywhere. The sport is much more available over there and i would guess that this is the case elsewhere.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Murray ruffling feathers saying the LTA not producing sufficient junior champions. He has a point

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/34970935
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A quote from the article :o

Murray said one of his main frustrations was a lack of players to practise with whenever he is in the UK.

After returning from the Shanghai Masters in October, Murray said he arrived at the National Training Centre in London to find no other players present.

"I was there on a Monday at about 3pm and then on Tuesday, at the same time," he said.

"There was not one person using any of the indoor courts and not one person in the gym. I took photos of it because the place cost like £40m and there are no people."

State-of-the-art new complex and no-one is using it? Not great LTA.
 
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