The custom fit dilemma

Ethan said:
So you have a set with randomly chosen shaft weight and flex, lift, lie and length and grip size? Good for you. Because otherwise you would be a hypocrite.
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so random he had 45pts with them last week.

Get yourself down to a custom fitting session Birchy. You might get 50pts
 
Ethan said:
So you have a set with randomly chosen shaft weight and flex, lift, lie and length and grip size? Good for you. Because otherwise you would be a hypocrite.
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I think it's just his opinion mate. Doesn't matter whether that opinion is right or wrong, he's entitled to it.

What clubs he has is irrelevant. How do you know he hasn't got custom for to the eyeballs and added 4 shots to his handicap?
 
huds1475 said:
I think it's just his opinion mate. Doesn't matter whether that opinion is right or wrong, he's entitled to it.

What clubs he has is irrelevant. How do you know he hasn't got custom for to the eyeballs and added 4 shots to his handicap?
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Well the point which you seem to have missed us that by choosing clubs, he had identified characteristics that suit him. That is precisely what CF is intended to do. If he had 45 points that just proves the point.

So he has implicitly accepted the principle and needs to make a more logical or nuanced argument against it. Is he saying that amateurs are too variable for accurate data to be gathered, or that even accurate data doesn't tell you the right fitting or that even with the right fitting it doesn't make a difference? Or all of the above.

Just swanning in and saying it is all rubbish is rather unhelpful.

And the term he used to describe how rubbish he thought is considered by some to be offensive.
 
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Ethan said:
Well the point which you seem to have missed us that by choosing clubs, he had identified characteristics that suit him. That is what CF is intended to do. If he had 45 points that just proves the point So he has implicitly accepted the principle and needs to make a more logical or nuanced argument against it. Is he saying that anatuers are too variable fit their data to be gathered, or that even accurate data doesn't tell you the right fitting or that even with the right fitting it doesn't make a difference? Or all of the above. Just swanning in and saying it is all rubbish is rather unhelpful.
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The right fitting one day could be totally wrong the next. Most of us throw in all sorts of different swings each time we go out. Unless the clubs automatically morph into the best setup mid swing before you hit it then its not gonna make a massive difference.

A fitting again is a recommnedation based on best fit, ive seen loads of people get recommended a certain setup only to come away and find the recommendation was a load of rubbish.
 
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Birchy said:
The right fitting one day could be totally wrong the next. Most of us throw in all sorts of different swings each time we go out. Unless the clubs automatically morph into the best setup mid swing before you hit it then its not gonna make a massive difference.

A fitting again is a recommnedation based on best fit, ive seen loads of people get recommended a certain setup only to come away and find the recommendation was a load of rubbish.
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Most amateurs with middle handicaps or lower have swings with fairly constant characteristic features. A decent fitter can take these into account when fitting. If you have seen loads of bad fits then you have seen either loads of bad fitters or you are choosing to see what you want to see. Maybe the bad fits went to AG, in which case we could agree that fitting is not much better than choosing off the shelf.
 
Ethan said:
Well the point which you seem to have missed us that by choosing clubs, he had identified characteristics that suit him. That is precisely what CF is intended to do. If he had 45 points that just proves the point.

So he has implicitly accepted the principle and needs to make a more logical or nuanced argument against it. Is he saying that amateurs are too variable for accurate data to be gathered, or that even accurate data doesn't tell you the right fitting or that even with the right fitting it doesn't make a difference? Or all of the above.

Just swanning in and saying it is all rubbish is rather unhelpful.

And the term he used to describe how rubbish he thought is considered by some to be offensive.
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No mate, I didn't miss the point.

My point, in case I didn't make it clear, is...

He's entitled to his opinion, irrespective of how he formed it and what clubs he uses, without someone wading in and calling him names.

Playground
 
huds1475 said:
No mate, I didn't miss the point.

My point, in case I didn't make it clear, is...

He's entitled to his opinion, irrespective of how he formed it and what clubs he uses, without someone wading in and calling him names.

Playground
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You made your point clear, mate. It included:

"What clubs he has is irrelevant. How do you know he hasn't got custom for to the eyeballs and added 4 shots to his handicap?"

Well, the point I was making was that if he has chosen his clubs on the basis of characteristics which he thought suited him, then he has accepted the basic idea of CF. The only question then is which aspects of CF he disagrees with, and I am still waiting for the answer.

At least that is the discussion for the big boys playground. Run along back to yours and don't run with any sharp objects there.
 
davemc1 said:
Ive been weighing up a new set of irons for a while now. The original plan was going to be as a treat for when I got down to 18, but ive got an itch, and an unexpected spare few quid.

The srixon 545s have long been the iron of choice, but I also like the mizuno jpx 850. So question is to those that have tried both, main differences to feel, sound, height and distances?

Both have been roughly same price range of £5-600. However a little mooch has threw up a price of £350 for the 850s but thats in a shop that doesnt offer c/f

How wrong would it be to get fitted at a place where I have no intention of buying their irons, and then going back to the cheaper shop?

Also, im playing bleeding awful. Would it be wise to hang on until form picks up?

Cheers, thanks for reading, and happy new year
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I haven't bothered to read through all the other posts, but have you ever gone to see something in a shop, and then bought it on the internet for a fraction of the price. It's modern day life mate !!
 
I've had C/F and off the shelf. Now I've a relatively repeatable swing I personally think a fitting has some merits for my game. If I want to buy new gear, then I want the best options within my budget and that for me includes getting measured and testing a number of makes and models (including shafts) to see if I can find the ideal one for me. That's just my preference but if others don't have the same opinion and prefer a one-stop solution form a high street retailer (or ideally a club pro) then I don't see the issue. As always there isn't a definitive answer to be had
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I've had C/F and off the shelf. Now I've a relatively repeatable swing I personally think a fitting has some merits for my game. If I want to buy new gear, then I want the best options within my budget and that for me includes getting measured and testing a number of makes and models (including shafts) to see if I can find the ideal one for me. That's just my preference but if others don't have the same opinion and prefer a one-stop solution form a high street retailer (or ideally a club pro) then I don't see the issue. As always there isn't a definitive answer to be had
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Stop being so reasonable. Pick a side and then defend it by using childish insults and petty snides :D
 
WWG said:
I haven't bothered to read through all the other posts, but have you ever gone to see something in a shop, and then bought it on the internet for a fraction of the price. It's modern day life mate !!
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The price I seen is £70 less than I've eventually payed. But that was standard lie and shaft. Iv been fitted for the swing I had today, hopefully it's not to far off the mark. Guy checks lies in a month or 2 and alters if needed, and gives an mot in 12 months. Also I get 2 free lessons, not bad for £70.

Buying in store is the future :)
 
So you've had a CF session on a wonky swing and ordered the clubs?

Madness.
 
I'm off for a custom fit tomorrow. Putter.

Had a go on on the Quintic system yesterday and saw my ball actually after impact, start its rotation, backwards :mad:........ Launched 4-5 degrees in the air, Skid for 20+ inches before it started its forward roll.............
 
3565 said:
I'm off for a custom fit tomorrow. Putter.

Had a go on on the Quintic system yesterday and saw my ball actually after impact, start its rotation, backwards :mad:........ Launched 4-5 degrees in the air, Skid for 20+ inches before it started its forward roll.............
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I would never advise anyone against getting custom fitted, but in my experience, the benefit of a CF is primarily in the mind. If you think a club is right for you, then you'll be more inclined to trust it to do its job..

Note, this opinion (and that's all that it is) is mainly aimed at the Cat 2 and above golfer who cannot control his/her impact position with enough regularity to make a significant difference..
 
bluewolf said:
I would never advise anyone against getting custom fitted, but in my experience, the benefit of a CF is primarily in the mind. If you think a club is right for you, then you'll be more inclined to trust it to do its job..

Note, this opinion (and that's all that it is) is mainly aimed at the Cat 2 and above golfer who cannot control his/her impact position with enough regularity to make a significant difference..
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have you been customed fit?
 
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