The cost of religion?

Tourists should pay double.
Anyone with a UK address should get in for a fiver.

Increased income, less upset for for all. Win win. :)
 
chrisd said:
Two weeks ago we visited the Natural History Museum, today the Tate Modern, no entry charge for either, except a charge for the special exhibition that we went especially to see. They survive amazingly well but a church with billions in cash and assets charge 2 senior citizens £32.
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Chris
Museums are publically funded, its government policy.
You are comparing apples with oranges

It's free to worship there, but if you are there as a tourist, expect to pay tourist rates
 
chrisd said:
Two weeks ago we visited the Natural History Museum, today the Tate Modern, no entry charge for either, except a charge for the special exhibition that we went especially to see. They survive amazingly well but a church with billions in cash and assets charge 2 senior citizens £32.
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Both the Tate Modern and NHM are funded from the government through the DCMS - that helps them survive
 
chrisd said:
To be fair Karen, LiverproofPhil has already told me off for the title!
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No one has told you off -but it's not often a 60 year old man needs a dummy or tissue to stop his bottom lip quivering
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Chris
Museums are publically funded, its government policy.
You are comparing apples with oranges

It's free to worship there, but if you are there as a tourist, expect to pay tourist rates
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A fair view Phil, and I did know the funding method. I've said several times that I expected to pay but feel the amount is way over my expectations. If you think it's "the going rate" I don't have any problem but value for money I'd rather go to many other places and spend my hard earned money
 
chrisd said:
HID and I were off to London to see the Georgia O'Keeffe exhibition at the Tate Modern so thought we'd have a pop round St Pauls Cathedral as its been many years since we last wandered round it

Cost of entry £32 for the two of us and that's a £4 saving as we're old gits - no chance of us paying that, would you?
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We visited St Pauls for first time earlier this year - we bought on-line for £27 (I think) each. Expensive but I thought it worth it as once in you didn't have to pay for anything else - and it is a fabulous building.

Though I think your Post title may be inaccurate as I believe you can get in free if you are visiting for religious reasons rather than as a sightseer - though not 100% sure of that - but that is the case with many churches and cathedrals
 
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Norrin Radd said:
the words money grabbing [children without married parents] come to mind.
the church as a whole has more money than it could ever spend ,they are just ripping people off ,much like any other business that relys in public donation.
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which church would that be? I can assure you that my church does not have more money than it could spend. The CoE and Catholic church might have - but I think you'll find that Presbyterian/Protestant churches are not awash with cash.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
We visited St Pauls for first time earlier this year - we bought on-line for £27 (I think) each. Expensive but I thought it worth it as once in you didn't have to pay for anything else - and it is a fabulous building.

Though I think your Post title may be inaccurate as I believe you can get in free if you are visiting for religious reasons rather than as a sightseer - though not 100% sure of that - but that is the case with many churches and cathedrals
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I posted earlier that you can get in free to worship but that's never going to happen with me. The post title surely doesn't have to be anything other than an enticer to read the thread? The papers do it all the time!
 
Norrin Radd said:
it is its about religion,the cause of more wars than anything else and continually preying on the public to fund their ways.
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I don't think you actually realise how much churches provide to and for their communities. Nonetheless I like the pun about praying on the pubic - because yes we do. :)
 
chrisd said:
I posted earlier that you can get in free to worship but that's never going to happen with me. The post title surely doesn't have to be anything other than an enticer to read the thread? The papers do it all the time!
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No probs - I wasn't actually moaning about the title of the post, @FD misunderstood also so not alone.

However I do take some issue with posters glibly and loosely referring to 'the church' as if there is only one 'church'. There isn't - there are many - we are not all the same - indeed we are very different.
 
chrisd said:
HID and I were off to London to see the Georgia O'Keeffe exhibition at the Tate Modern so thought we'd have a pop round St Pauls Cathedral as its been many years since we last wandered round it

Cost of entry £32 for the two of us and that's a £4 saving as we're old gits - no chance of us paying that, would you?
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Old timer, did you go up by train…………..

https://www.southwesttrains.co.uk/offers--days-out/offers/2for1/

https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/offers-and-destinations/2for1/

Mrs BiM & I did St. Pauls on this via South West trains.

You're welcome. :thup: And sort the title out will you…….. :whistle:
 
Sme of the accusations/defences struggle to add up for me?

Do we judge it as "the church" and if so include its costs as their overall assets and costs. Which according to the google link have increased year on year. Albeit profit (should a church make profit) has dropped.
Or we accept that it runs as a business as was suggestion for stand alone buildings such as this. If so, then with almost a million visitors a year, and daily costs of 20k. They are making 20k profit a day.

That seems ridiculous to me.

That said, I'd not go in their if it were three. So for that reason, the price doesn't really bother me. If you're a tourist and willing to get mugged for that fee. Then good luck to you.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The people that are being charged are the ones that are seeing the building as a tourist attraction with many historic elements to it - the people going to use it as a church and a place of worship are entering for free.

Building or historic nature both religious and non religious charge entrance fees all over the world - not just to look for profit but to ensure the upkeep of said attraction.

Yes the church and indeed also the crown do have vast amounts of land that could be sold of for millions to have more and more houses or wind farms or solar panels built on instead of lovely animal dwelling green countryside.
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Aw, lovely animal dwelling green countryside... how nice. Playing the emotional card is a poor substitute for a good discussion. Selling the farm land to a tenant farmer means it stays green. Selling the freehold of a shop to the tenant means it stays a shop. Investing the money into blue chip companies guarantees a return that will fund a free welcome into a Church.

I appreciate we won't agree on this as I'm coming from a religious standpoint that saw Jesus throw the Philistines from the Church for making money in the building. It's a principle I'm arguing. The Church can make money in other ways but I fundamentally disagree with being charged to visit one irrespective of why someone has visited.
 
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