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The Ashes 2017/18

pendodave said:
This. They've already won. When it mattered they were much better.
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Totally agree. Depleted an Aussie attack and the equivalent of what we dished up to them in the first three matches. Happy that Cook made some runs but I still feel his run as opener must be close to an end as he's previous contributions for a period of time bar one century against a poor West Indies attack haven't been good and he's not made a decent contribution in the Ashes and set a firm base.
 
Well its been pleasingly quiet, at home, this morning with no gloating calls from herselfs family down below...

Not sure I am in a position, just yet, to start calling them with 'good news'...

However, I live in hope..

Been a tough few weeks...
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Totally agree. Depleted an Aussie attack and the equivalent of what we dished up to them in the first three matches. Happy that Cook made some runs but I still feel his run as opener must be close to an end as he's previous contributions for a period of time bar one century against a poor West Indies attack haven't been good and he's not made a decent contribution in the Ashes and set a firm base.
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So who do you bring in to replace the highest English test run scorer of all time, the 9th leading all time test run scorer and a guy with 31 test hundreds??? I just don’t think there is anyone better to replace him. If you go back to County Cricket, Cook and Stoneman are the best Englishmen by far.

The horse may have bolted this series, but it’s good to show some bottle. That said, we seem to have a good day then a bad few days so I’m not holding my breath in this one either :)
 
Junior said:
For sure mate. Jennings seems to have something so I hope he gets a run when Cook decides to step down.

Im not sure who can step up in the bowling department though. Porter, Coad or Overton seem the ones , but I just don’t think they set the world on fire. I hope they prove me wrong. Harmer , if or when he qualifies too could be the spinner we are crying out for.

My other beef is that I think Anderson should have been captain for last Summer and this Ashes series. Let Root have the vice and have him take over. I hate how we always burden our talisman type players with the captaincy when they are too young,
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Personally would have done everything to give Jennings or someone similar at no.3 this test. Vince is so far from being the answer at 3 its a joke.

Cook will go after the 2019 Ashes IMO (along with Jimmy and possibly Broad) and by then the likes of Jennings and Robson are going to be approaching 30 by the time they even get a second run in the team.
 
Junior said:
So who do you bring in to replace the highest English test run scorer of all time, the 9th leading all time test run scorer and a guy with 31 test hundreds??? I just don’t think there is anyone better to replace him. If you go back to County Cricket, Cook and Stoneman are the best Englishmen by far.

The horse may have bolted this series, but it’s good to show some bottle. That said, we seem to have a good day then a bad few days so I’m not holding my breath in this one either :)
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His record for England isn't in doubt and over the years he has been as good as though figures show but if you look at his record aside from a century against a poor West Indies attack and a thirty something start in one Ashes innings, his scores in 2017 haven't been great and I just feel now is the time to be bringing players into the squad or what is the point of the other development sides? Give them a go, but don't bin them if they struggle early on. We know we've a few reaching the end so lets start the rebuilding process and give new players game time
 
HomerJSimpson said:
His record for England isn't in doubt and over the years he has been as good as though figures show but if you look at his record aside from a century against a poor West Indies attack and a thirty something start in one Ashes innings, his scores in 2017 haven't been great and I just feel now is the time to be bringing players into the squad or what is the point of the other development sides? Give them a go, but don't bin them if they struggle early on. We know we've a few reaching the end so lets start the rebuilding process and give new players game time
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who? you keep wanting to drop him but still cant offer a replacement. is that because there isnt one?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
To be brutally honest I don't watch enough cricket but I'd have thought Hameed deserves a go
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So you want to drop a guy whos scored 12,000 runs and is averaging 40+ this year in test for a guy who didnt average 30 in county cricket, scores at a SR of below 2 an over, didnt score a ton in the CC and got dropped by his own county

Hameed was actually in possession until he got to the point where he got injured then couldnt get it off the square. May well be one for the future but to have thrown him into this series wouldve been ridiculous
 
HomerJSimpson said:
To be brutally honest I don't watch enough cricket but I'd have thought Hameed deserves a go
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Do us all a favour and if you don't know, don't comment!!

The guy you're recommending to replace the greatest English batsmen by total weight of test runs averaged less than 25 this year and had more ducks than 50s. Laughable.
 
fundy said:
So you want to drop a guy whos scored 12,000 runs and is averaging 40+ this year in test for a guy who didnt average 30 in county cricket, scores at a SR of below 2 an over, didnt score a ton in the CC and got dropped by his own county

Hameed was actually in possession until he got to the point where he got injured then couldnt get it off the square. May well be one for the future but to have thrown him into this series wouldve been ridiculous
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I'm not dissing Cook as I think he is still the best option we've got but that average has been helped immensely by scoring 200+ in one innings against a very poor West Indies side.
 
TheDiablo said:
Do us all a favour and if you don't know, don't comment!!

The guy you're recommending to replace the greatest English batsmen by total weight of test runs averaged less than 25 this year and had more ducks than 50s. Laughable.
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So why was he named in the Lions side. I thought a forum was open for all. If it was restricted to those that new it'll be a ghost town on here
 
There is no one better than Cook as an England opener. Cricket has two openers and he is the best one, not even the second best. Amazing there is a discussion considering his record and after he has just scored a ton against Australia. :mad:
 
richart said:
There is no one better than Cook as an England opener. Cricket has two openers and he is the best one, not even the second best. Amazing there is a discussion considering his record and after he has just scored a ton against Australia. :mad:
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Because someone who doesn’t really watch cricket , doesn’t know anyone that can replace him has spent the entire Ashes saying Cook should go.

There is no one right now to replace Cook - you can’t play the Aussies with two raw young Openers. Cook hasn’t had his best series but he has had some snorters and he is far from the worst culprit on tour but I tbhnk someone focused on his because he doesn’t really know what’s going on
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So why was he named in the Lions side. I thought a forum was open for all. If it was restricted to those that new it'll be a ghost town on here
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Because he is still one they want to nurture for the future. But he's miles and miles away from playing tests on current form. You just happened to have heard of him.

I know nothing about cars so scroll past those threads etc. It isn't that hard, try it sometime.
 
TheDiablo said:
Because he is still one they want to nurture for the future. But he's miles and miles away from playing tests on current form. You just happened to have heard of him.

I know nothing about cars so scroll past those threads etc. It isn't that hard, try it sometime.
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Nice try. I've heard about him for a while but its all good nuturing for the future but sometimes you have to give a player a chance. When will he be good enough? As for avoiding threads, I give Brexit and most of the political threads a wide berth. Ta for the advice though
 
Cooks been in poor form recently but the reality is we have no one else knocking on the door and ready to replace him. A few have had their chance and they blew it.

They are desperate to get Hameed in the team but he had the season from hell so they had to leave him behind.

There is little doubt Cook is nearing the end of his time and if we had better alternatives then he would likely have been dropped for this test but we don't so we wasn't. A good Lion's tour for someone could see them introduced in the home tests this summer. The door is certainly open in a number of positions.
 
What a great day for England, especially the batting performance by Cook.

I’m optimistic that we might just sneak a draw from here!
 
Superb once again from Cook - some great shots and very well supported by Woakes and Broad to give England a decent lead

Root though - another silly shot when looking to convert a 60 into a ton - happening a lot

These are also great words from Micheal Slater in regards England and Cook especially

https://twitter.com/btsportcricket/status/946289163082416128
 
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