Sub 3 hour rounds

Bomber69 said:
Not sure what that has to do with things but I play every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday weather permitting and if I can squeaze a game or 2 extra in then I will, however over the winter as you can imagine it may drop back to 3 rounds a week.
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You're lucky that you can play three times monday to friday plus both days at the weekend.
The Weekend Warriors that you are so dismissive of can only play at weekends.

Why don't you take Saturday and sunday off and stop cluttering up the course and getting in their way?:whistle:
 
Bomber69 said:
Not sure what that has to do with things but I play every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday weather permitting and if I can squeaze a game or 2 extra in then I will, however over the winter as you can imagine it may drop back to 3 rounds a week.
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Haven't you got a job or a family or anything else that gets in the way?
 
Bomber69 said:
Not sure what that has to do with things but I play every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday weather permitting and if I can squeaze a game or 2 extra in then I will, however over the winter as you can imagine it may drop back to 3 rounds a week.
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What I took Mimms to mean was that you seem insistent on calling everyone that doesn't have the luxury such as myself due to work commitments to play as often as you a weekend warrior this meaning they must be a hack! Not everyone unless they're retired has the good fortune to play as much as you do but that doesn't mean they wouldn't like to play more or be open to derision because your the lucky one !
 
North Mimms said:
You're lucky that you can play three times monday to friday plus both days at the weekend.
The Weekend Warriors that you are so dismissive of can only play at weekends.

Why don't you take Saturday and sunday off and stop cluttering up the course and getting in their way?:whistle:
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Funny you should say that because yesterday I played with a few mates at Turnhouse because Glenbervie had a competition on which I was not allowed to play in as it was for handicaps off 8 & above, now I was going to say its for the W W but that would not be nice....
 
Bomber69 said:
Funny you should say that because yesterday I played with a few mates at Turnhouse because Glenbervie had a competition on which I was not allowed to play in as it was for handicaps off 8 & above, now I was going to say its for the W W but that would not be nice....
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Should you not be on the golf course it sunday after all :rofl:
 
Foxholer said:
I've played a few times at a couple of the courses in Bomber's sig.

Neither are sub 3 hour round courses - for a 4-ball.

I'd be interested to know how long the GM vs HDID matches took at Levin - which is the quicker of the 2 imo.

@ChrisD

I agree with Craw about the need to educate the ex-Captain. How it's done may be an issue, but it's certainly necessary.

And according to the Etiquette section of The Rules, if you fall a hole behind the group in front, you should invite the following group through - irrespective of whether they are pushing you or not. What many don't/choose not to comprehend is that 'falling a hole behind' is different from being 'out of position'.

Personally, I think the 3 hour 18 hole 4-ball round is, like Nessie, a myth. Craw may bleat on about it, but seems to only just manage it on his own! And Bomber's just talking (his usual?) tripe imo.
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Nessie is alive and well thank you!

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Foxholer said:
@ChrisD

I agree with Craw about the need to educate the ex-Captain. How it's done may be an issue, but it's certainly necessary.

And according to the Etiquette section of The Rules, if you fall a hole behind the group in front, you should invite the following group through - irrespective of whether they are pushing you or not. What many don't/choose not to comprehend is that 'falling a hole behind' is different from being 'out of position'.

Personally, I think the 3 hour 18 hole 4-ball round is, like Nessie, a myth. Craw may bleat on about it, but seems to only just manage it on his own! And Bomber's just talking (his usual?) tripe imo.
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I agree with you. I just don't feel that it's my responsibility to educate him while I am trying to enjoy a competition round. I also understand the principal of inviting groups to play through but, as I have posted, the group behind were never in a position to be called through without us waiting for them and then we would have slotted in behind them which would have slowed everything down even further! So I can't see that being the sensible option given the the 1st two groups went off like a steam train and that a competitive 3 ball at our place averages 3 hours 45 mins to 4 hours any Sunday and we finished bang on 4hours. Interestingly, the same time group on the 10th tee start finished after us and they were all low handicappers!

The point about Craws 3 hour rounds is, to me, a fair one. Even in the fastest 3 ball at mine in a comp I don't recall being in quicker than 3.5 hours and that would be without losing a ball!

Finally, if the ex Captain need re educating I think the way to do it is that a complaint is lodged with the Club Secretary who then can talk to him on behalf of the Club as a whole, but, and where this started, I don't see it as my responsibility to do more than try and cajole him to go faster, if he ignores his playing partners then we can only proceed at his pace, which is what we did
 
MadAdey said:
In short Smashed my knee up playing football, made it difficult for me to hit a golf ball properly. Changed my clubs for some cavity backs and changed my swing to allow for the knee. Took 18 months for them to find a small splinter of bone that was rubbing on my cartlidge. Ended up not really playing for 2 years due to the knee.
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So in short your a 10 handicapper that had a sore knee, you'll get over it. Tiger's a good example for you and he got through it :thup:
 
chrisd said:
I agree with you. I just don't feel that it's my responsibility to educate him while I am trying to enjoy a competition round. I also understand the principal of inviting groups to play through but, as I have posted, the group behind were never in a position to be called through without us waiting for them and then we would have slotted in behind them which would have slowed everything down even further! So I can't see that being the sensible option given the the 1st two groups went off like a steam train and that a competitive 3 ball at our place averages 3 hours 45 mins to 4 hours any Sunday and we finished bang on 4hours. Interestingly, the same time group on the 10th tee start finished after us and they were all low handicappers!

The point about Craws 3 hour rounds is, to me, a fair one. Even in the fastest 3 ball at mine in a comp I don't recall being in quicker than 3.5 hours and that would be without losing a ball!

Finally, if the ex Captain need re educating I think the way to do it is that a complaint is lodged with the Club Secretary who then can talk to him on behalf of the Club as a whole, but, and where this started, I don't see it as my responsibility to do more than try and cajole him to go faster, if he ignores his playing partners then we can only proceed at his pace, which is what we did
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That's a fair enough point. No point in creating a situation on the course and confrontation is not really that pleasant so I can understand where your coming from.
 
chrisd said:
I agree with you. I just don't feel that it's my responsibility to educate him while I am trying to enjoy a competition round. I also understand the principal of inviting groups to play through but, as I have posted, the group behind were never in a position to be called through without us waiting for them and then we would have slotted in behind them which would have slowed everything down even further! So I can't see that being the sensible option given the the 1st two groups went off like a steam train and that a competitive 3 ball at our place averages 3 hours 45 mins to 4 hours any Sunday and we finished bang on 4hours. Interestingly, the same time group on the 10th tee start finished after us and they were all low handicappers!

The point about Craws 3 hour rounds is, to me, a fair one. Even in the fastest 3 ball at mine in a comp I don't recall being in quicker than 3.5 hours and that would be without losing a ball!

Finally, if the ex Captain need re educating I think the way to do it is that a complaint is lodged with the Club Secretary who then can talk to him on behalf of the Club as a whole, but, and where this started, I don't see it as my responsibility to do more than try and cajole him to go faster, if he ignores his playing partners then we can only proceed at his pace, which is what we did
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Does sound like it's more a case of the groups ahead going off like rockets.

You have my sympathy re the ex-Captain. I have been in exactly the same position with 3 from a previous club - it seems to be a requirement of the role! 2 of them were/are actually in denial/excuse mode - complaining about the 'slow play' of others in their group. Oddly, I have found that some of my best scores are from rounds where the overall pace of play is slower than desirable, so I simply switch my angst meter off and play relaxed golf. Situations like you had - such as having to cajole a slow player - tend to cause tension with consequent poor results.

I think you still need to point out to The Committee, without making a specific 'complaint', that the ex-Captain is a potential card-wrecker for anyone in his group. Diplomacy is called for - so I'll say no more! :D
 
Bomber69 said:
Not sure what that has to do with things but I play every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday weather permitting and if I can squeaze a game or 2 extra in then I will, however over the winter as you can imagine it may drop back to 3 rounds a week.
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You play 5 days a week and you can't get your handicap below 5? Bordering on weekend warrior ability if you ask me ;)
 
Foxholer said:
Does sound like it's more a case of the groups ahead going off like rockets.

You have my sympathy re the ex-Captain. I have been in exactly the same position with 3 from a previous club - it seems to be a requirement of the role! 2 of them were/are actually in denial/excuse mode - complaining about the 'slow play' of others in their group. Oddly, I have found that some of my best scores are from rounds where the overall pace of play is slower than desirable, so I simply switch my angst meter off and play relaxed golf. Situations like you had - such as having to cajole a slow player - tend to cause tension with consequent poor results.

I think you still need to point out to The Committee, without making a specific 'complaint', that the ex-Captain is a potential card-wrecker for anyone in his group. Diplomacy is called for - so I'll say no more! :D
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Spot on Fox!
 
Clasic example of slow play today.
Party of 7 'southerners' playing as a four followed by a three.
Teed off at 9.10 and were on the 11th tee at 11.55.
They held up the whole course with many folk walking off including myself.

They had absolutely no consideration for anyone on the course other that themselves.
They looked middle handicap club players. There was always a one to three hole gap clear in front, changed whilst those impatient players behind cut in front of them.
The absolutely dawdled between shots, moving like 80 year olds even though they were middle aged.
Five minute chats on each tee to decide which club to play not to mention the time spent on greens.

And that was on the easy Par 68 course.
 
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