Stiff iron shafts vs Regular

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Evening all,
Just wondering what you guys know about what the difference in bad shots would be for each if they were the wrong shaft for you....

Ever since i parted company with my Wilsonstaff FG Tours iv always reckoned it was a mistake.
Being off 20 at the time never really helped my decision but iv always wanted them back...

Currently im playing Stiff AWT's in my Pings but im hitting them everwhere and cant seem to get any shot pattern nailed down..

Iv picked up 2 Wilsons 1 with a DG R300 and 1 with a DG S300 shaft in them...
Played with them friday yesterday and today just to make sure i wasnt having a once off...They are both 6 irons.

They were longer than my pings by at least a full club and sometimes 1 and a half more.

Comparing them i was still spraying the AWT's and when i hit the R300 it was longer but high and left and when i hit the S300 it was as long as the Regular dynamic gold but wasnt as far to the left and more often than not straighter.......

The wilsons feel much heavier than the pings and it seemed to help me swing better...

A bad shot with either of the regulars was high and way left....
And with the S300's it was the same but not as far left....
It was a case of a high bad hook vs a slightly overcooked draw with the stiff.


I have these demo clubs for another week so ill use them again just to see but are my initial thoughts right in that the regular shafts are too soft for me?

All help welcome..
Also i have no way of getting on a launch monitor or anything like that so iv no idea of SS.
All i know is that with the Pings i hit my 6 iron from 145-150 mtrs whereas the Wilson 6 iron i was hitting it from 160 consistently and alot straighter.

Plus i dont want to get into a willie measuring contest.
:D :D :D
 
I think old man Ethan is your guy for this... :)
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Maybe AW.
I was gonna P.M. himself or Bob but i dont want to be annoying them either...

It could be a case of "Oh god not this guy again" :rolleyes: :D
 
A shaft that has too much flex will invariably hit the ball further left and higher than a stiffer shaft. Its not quite that simple as different shafts have different kick points which will affect trajectory though if comparing a regular and stiff of the same then that is indeed what you would expect to see.

I know you say you cant get on a launch monitor but does anywhere near you have the Mizuno swing dna, this would give you a decent guide as to which shafts should suit you.

That said, if you are carrying a 6 iron 160m (175yds) then I would expect you are more likely to require a stiff than a regular shaft
 
must admit I've just gone to Stiff shafts after 20 yrs regular and I'm def 1 club shorter which is very very annoying
 
That said, if you are carrying a 6 iron 160m (175yds) then I would expect you are more likely to require a stiff than a regular shaft
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I made a point over the last 3 days Fundy of hitting at least 12 shots each per day with all the clubs from that range and to be honest yes there were a few that dropped short but the straightest was the stiff in the DG by a country mile..

I hit them from all sorts of lie's too and they were a little longer out of the rough but then i do have a steep swing so there were plenty of divots on the fairway..
I could have been getting the odd flier from the rough.


But im not sure was it a combination of the shaft and the semi blade club head or just the shaft...
Everything felt more solid with the wilsons....
And im not on a what club should i buy mission here just that it seemed i could rip through any lie with the wilsons without worrying where they were going to end up.

This morning we played off our Blue championship tee's and off our 17th par 3 at 178 mtrs i hit the stiff 6 iron with a breeze helping pin high but just left of the green.
But it actually went where i was aiming as i had aimed to draw it into the centre of the green....

I only missed the spot where i wanted the ball to land by about 10 mtrs
 
You must live in the middle of nowhere :(

That said, for getting the right shafts in my irons, if I couldnt find anywhere on my doorstep Id drive that far to get it sorted, its clearly eating away at you.
 
In my experience, I found the tt shafts to be more consistant. the ping shafts seem to play more flexible than the tt shafts, from what you say the s300 seem to suit your swing better, straighter flight and more consistant results, are you too far from somewhere like foregolf to go and get fit? I agree with fundy that it maybe worth the driver somewhere to get checked out.
 
No one has mentioned that how you swing the club has a large bearing on this choice. If certain areas of the swing tempo are faster then different flexes can be used for the same swing speed. The mizuna dna thing definately a good idea.
JT77 - I was told the oposite of awt shafts - that they play slightly stiffer than TT. Anyone know - Bob??
I hit a 7 iron 155 and play a regular so you look like you are venturing into stiff territory with your distances as I was deemed borderline! This is where the awt reg came in as it played slightly stiffer and so provided a middle ground.
 
go to a golf shop, american golf etc and ask for a swing measure 'because you are thinking of buying some clubs'...they will advise on your swing and what are best shafts
 
sta, I was only talking from my experience, I found them to be very wobbly in comparison, I had some ping i15's with the stiff awt shaft, and found them awful, I much preferred the s300 shafts over them. I currently use 6.0 px shafts and find them just about perfect, I would def rec the mizuno dna thing, it is how i got onto the px 6.0.
 
As mentioned in a previous post after my PING custom fitting i was told that stiff shafted irons suited my game from the regular shafts that i have always used.

I had never thought about stiff shafted irons if im honest and was sure that regular shafts suited me fine. Distance wise i was carrying around 165 yds with a 6 iron and around 155yds with an 8 iron but dispersion wise i was never consistent. Switch to the stiff shaft and distance was roughly the same but dispersion was much better.

I think you need to look more too dispersion consistency and less about distance. It doesnt really matter what club you use to hit the green but hitting the green does. If dispersion is better with regular then they are the shafts for you. Only my humble rather uneducated view but its a view none the less.
 
2 things Kid.

1. The Wilson club is probably 2-4 degrees stronger than the Ping so you're always going to hit them longer.

2. Don't get caught up with distance. You hit the ball a decent length so don't worry about it. Accuracy is far more important. If you need to hit 6 when everyone else is hitting 7 it doesn't make any difference if you can hit your 6 straighter and find the green.

Sounds like the S300 works....
 
I would avoid AG like the plague for anything to do with swing fitting. Why not chat to your club pro or go to a local range or club and speak to the pro and get him to have a look at your swing speed and give you some advice
 
Yeah apologies for mentioning the AG...just trying to express the thought for a proper club measurement. Moonpig is spot on that it must be better to have greater accuracy, just use the right club no matter whether pride says it should be a 5,6 or 7
 
2 things Kid.

1. The Wilson club is probably 2-4 degrees stronger than the Ping so you're always going to hit them longer.

2. Don't get caught up with distance. You hit the ball a decent length so don't worry about it. Accuracy is far more important. If you need to hit 6 when everyone else is hitting 7 it doesn't make any difference if you can hit your 6 straighter and find the green.

Sounds like the S300 works....
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Here are the specs for both Murg...
Looks like the Wilsons are weaker lofted but are heavier i think and slightly longer in shafts.

The wilson's 6 iron is
Loft.....31 degrees
Lie ..... 61.5 degrees
Length..... 37.75 inch's
Swing weight is D2


My Ping i10's are
Loft........30.5 degrees
Lie.......61.5 degrees
Length.......37.25 inch's
Swing Weight.....D0

My distance doesnt really bother me but if i can be more accurate i dont care whats on the end of the club. ;)
 
As mentioned in a previous post after my PING custom fitting i was told that stiff shafted irons suited my game from the regular shafts that i have always used.

I had never thought about stiff shafted irons if im honest and was sure that regular shafts suited me fine. Distance wise i was carrying around 165 yds with a 6 iron and around 155yds with an 8 iron but dispersion wise i was never consistent. Switch to the stiff shaft and distance was roughly the same but dispersion was much better.

I think you need to look more too dispersion consistency and less about distance. It doesnt really matter what club you use to hit the green but hitting the green does. If dispersion is better with regular then they are the shafts for you. Only my humble rather uneducated view but its a view none the less.
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Dispersion seems to be much better with the Stiff Dynamic Gold shafts mate...

With the stiff Pings im all over the place.
 
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