Stand aside Bryson.... all hail Wilco

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The thing with BDC and the Masters was there was no plan B for the first round. He could have hit irons off most tees and still been in position and got it round safely. He just seemed determined to hit driver regardless of the result. It isn't a unique path and BDC has just worked hard to moved that needle on again
 
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You're either being ironic or that's the most ridiculous statement I've heard. Did you actually watch him play?
I’m not being ironic nor is it ridiculous, he hits the fairways out there it is indeed a 67 without a sweat, the distance he gets it out there the par 5’s are a drive and a short/mid iron. I did watch him play and he didn’t play great but nobody does all the time. I think it could be a very different story for him in April though only time will tell
 

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Without being pedantic by knocking one shot off that presumptive 67 par. I do believe that in April, assuming it’s drier, the distance of the par 5’s being so short, it is a par 68.

The players just have to play to that...and the par 3’s and 4’s may be the toughest pars for them to actually attain. Mainly holes 4, 5, 10 & 11.
 

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Bryson saying it was a par 67 was probably the most arrogant and clueless statement a golfer has made in history.

At his best yes it's a par 67 but the same is true for most of the big hitters.
 

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Without being pedantic by knocking one shot off that presumptive 67 par. I do believe that in April, assuming it’s drier, the distance of the par 5’s being so short, it is a par 68.

The players just have to play to that...and the par 3’s and 4’s may be the toughest pars for them to actually attain. Mainly holes 4, 5, 10 & 11.
The par fives aren't all nailed on birdies though. There's water and hazards in play on two of the shortest ones. It's not like the 4th at Wentworth which is a gimme birdie par a huge mistake.
 
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Bryson saying it was a par 67 was probably the most arrogant and clueless statement a golfer has made in history.

At his best yes it's a par 67 but the same is true for most of the big hitters.
slight difference in that he’s putting it 45 past today’s big hitters, that could at times be a massive advantage
 
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The par fives aren't all nailed on birdies though. There's water and hazards in play on two of the shortest ones. It's not like the 4th at Wentworth which is a gimme birdie par a huge mistake.
The hole he lost a ball on that plugged on soft ground is driveable for him
 

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The par fives aren't all nailed on birdies though. There's water and hazards in play on two of the shortest ones. It's not like the 4th at Wentworth which is a gimme birdie par a huge mistake.
Distance wise, they are all par 4’s.
Doesn’t mean they’ll always get 4’s. Like they don’t on shorter par 4’s.
 

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Distance wise, they are all par 4’s.
Doesn’t mean they’ll always get 4’s. Like they don’t on shorter par 4’s.
Distance wise the 12th is a gimme birdie. You make the mistake of judging a course on the scorecard.
 

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You sure about that ? He is when he wants to be with the 48 inch driver
The 48 inch driver that he was spraying further offline than the 46 inch driver that was 40 yards right at Augusta?

I like Bryson and his attitude to trying new ideas but the best thing he could do is keep quiet pre-tournament and work on a consistent technique, have a plan B when he plays a course that doesn't suit his boom and wedge philosophy.
 
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The 48 inch driver that he was spraying further offline than the 46 inch driver that was 40 yards right at Augusta?

I like Bryson and his attitude to trying new ideas but the best thing he could do is keep quiet pre-tournament and work on a consistent technique, have a plan B when he plays a course that doesn't suit his boom and wedge philosophy.
And as wild as he was off the tee, look at the strokes gained data. It doesn’t exactly correlate with a shocking driving performance. Also he didn’t put the long one in play because he’s still working on technique with it but it’ll be very interesting when he does. Anyone who thinks distance isn’t a key factor in performance, look at the top 20 in the world. I can’t wait for April, because I think it could be a very different story.
 

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Anyone who thinks distance isn’t a key factor in performance, look at the top 20 in the world.
I'm looking at the top 20 players in the world and 11 of them aren't in the top 20 in driving distance, including Reed 108th, Simpson 107th, Morikawa 97th, Oosthuizen 72nd, Berger 71st in PGA driving distance in 2020; 4 Major winners just there.

Yes some dull PGA courses suit huge drives as the rough is minimal but really good players have more than that.
 

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And as wild as he was off the tee, look at the strokes gained data. It doesn’t exactly correlate with a shocking driving performance. Also he didn’t put the long one in play because he’s still working on technique with it but it’ll be very interesting when he does. Anyone who thinks distance isn’t a key factor in performance, look at the top 20 in the world. I can’t wait for April, because I think it could be a very different story.
He didn't put the 48 in play because he wasn't seeing the distance gains. It'll only give him an extra 5-8 yards maximum anyway and lead to a much poor strike pattern and accuracy loss.

Any increase in distance this winter will be down to extra strength, flexibility or swing improvements.

The greens will also be much tougher/faster in April, so it'll be interesting to see if he usual poor putting continues at a 'proper' Masters.

The point is he set himself up to fail by needlessly making trashy comments.
 
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He didn't put the 48 in play because he wasn't seeing the distance gains. It'll only give him an extra 5-8 yards maximum anyway and lead to a much poor strike pattern and accuracy loss.

Any increase in distance this winter will be down to extra strength, flexibility or swing improvements.

The greens will also be much tougher/faster in April, so it'll be interesting to see if he usual poor putting continues at a 'proper' Masters.

The point is he set himself up to fail by needlessly making trashy comments.
No he is seeing distance gains he’s just not got the consistency levels he needs and also considerably more than 4-8 yards. I’m sure it will be in play early next year at some courses and maybe not so much on others.
 
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I'm looking at the top 20 players in the world and 11 of them aren't in the top 20 in driving distance, including Reed 108th, Simpson 107th, Morikawa 97th, Oosthuizen 72nd, Berger 71st in PGA driving distance in 2020; 4 Major winners just there.

Yes some dull PGA courses suit huge drives as the rough is minimal but really good players have more than that.
Can you quote the rest of the players driving distance stats in the top 20, it becomes even more telling when you get into the top 10
 
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