Some News for Doon.

She's a Scottish Nationalist - she is never going to let it go. But she doesn't want a referendum in the short term unless she knows she will win it - and I don't think that'll be very soon. Most of the talk about Sturgeon wanting another referendum soon seems to come from those who'd like to portray her as wanting another referendum soon - and these NO folks seem obsessed with talking about a referendum

If UK vote out of EU, she will jump on the bandwagon and want to go for a referendum which she will hope she will win and then join the EU. Funny situation for England & Wales if they opt out of EU, they will lose Scotland too. You can see it as a good thing or a bad thing depending on where you sit on the various debates.
 
2021 or 22 for indyref 2. And if folk don't want it then don't vote SNP.Then we won't be a burden on you any longer.
What happened to a "once in a generation opportunity" for Scotland to gain independence? Originally they said that they would accept the result as the Scottish population had made their choice, then it was if the UK votes to leave the EU but Scotland wants to stay then they would push for another vote and now it seems it doesn't matter what the result of the EU referendum is they want another vote. It's good to see that SNP politicians are no different to all the other politicians when it comes to telling lies to the country.
 
What happened to a "once in a generation opportunity" for Scotland to gain independence? Originally they said that they would accept the result as the Scottish population had made their choice, then it was if the UK votes to leave the EU but Scotland wants to stay then they would push for another vote and now it seems it doesn't matter what the result of the EU referendum is they want another vote. It's good to see that SNP politicians are no different to all the other politicians when it comes to telling lies to the country.

Oh they're definitely no different. Several of them have had to pay some of their expenses back, and a few more have had their parliamentary credit cards withdrawn.
 
2021 or 22 for indyref 2. And if folk don't want it then don't vote SNP.
Then we won't be a burden on you any longer.

What happened to a "once in a generation opportunity" for Scotland to gain independence? Originally they said that they would accept the result as the Scottish population had made their choice, then it was if the UK votes to leave the EU but Scotland wants to stay then they would push for another vote and now it seems it doesn't matter what the result of the EU referendum is they want another vote. It's good to see that SNP politicians are no different to all the other politicians when it comes to telling lies to the country.

Some might say that given the current life expectancy in Glasgow.... That is once in a generation....
(Exit left)
 
As I said, if folk don't want indy, don't vote for a pro indy party. It's not rocket science.

Didn't think you and I would agree about much on independence but you are spot on with this.

SNP have been on a mission for years now to disguise that they are a single issue party and they managed to take in a lot of people with their populist "bribes" and economic projections, which can most charitably only be described as "wishful thinking".

Can't blame them in the slightest for continuing to campaign for independence, since that's why they exist. Hopefully the mask is slipping though and some of those who aren't so ideologically set on independence will think twice before voting for them. We'll soon find out! :)
 
As I said, if folk don't want indy, don't vote for a pro indy party. It's not rocket science.
Sadly, in England we don't get a choice, but we still have to put up with the constant whinging from the party that lost and the minority who supported them.
 
An interesting piece in the Times business section today. Scotland's deficit is worse than Greece, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Croatia. The conclusion being that if Scotland decided to go it alone and ask to join the EU they might well get a resounding no. Why would the EU want a country with greater financial problems than Greece. And if it was a yes, the austerity measures imposed by the EU would bite massively.
 
An interesting piece in the Times business section today. Scotland's deficit is worse than Greece, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Croatia. The conclusion being that if Scotland decided to go it alone and ask to join the EU they might well get a resounding no. Why would the EU want a country with greater financial problems than Greece. And if it was a yes, the austerity measures imposed by the EU would bite massively.


A wonderful reason for remaining in the Union there.
"There's been a Union for 300 years and after all that time Scotland is the poor man of Europe."
Nope. Not exactly selling it to me. Lol.
 
Didn't think you and I would agree about much on independence but you are spot on with this.

SNP have been on a mission for years now to disguise that they are a single issue party and they managed to take in a lot of people with their populist "bribes" and economic projections, which can most charitably only be described as "wishful thinking".

Can't blame them in the slightest for continuing to campaign for independence, since that's why they exist. Hopefully the mask is slipping though and some of those who aren't so ideologically set on independence will think twice before voting for them. We'll soon find out! :)

Indeed. SNP with 30% lead in polls and Tories polling same as Labour in Scotland certainly shows folk are coming to their senses! :rofl:
 
A lot on this thread makes me feel that Sturgons economic ideas and noise is no better than her fellow Scot - the Donald...
 
I know.... there's no doubt they're going to win but I can dream that maybe they'll lose a bit of ground from last time. Wishful thinking perhaps.

:mad:

The fight between Labour and the Tories for second place is proving to be quite funny though.
Combined they are still 20% behind the SNP but still seem to consider themselves 'important'.

Ruthie Tank Lady lost a lot of credibility at the Dundee [sic] Question Time. IMO.
She was doing fairly well until then.
 
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