Smacking children, should you do it.

[Deleted member 16999]

You are talking about two adults playing a sport - a shoulder barge isn’t a violent act and it’s not done to hurt someone. Players tackling each other isnt a violent act - it maybe physical force but it’s not violence

Someone smacking a child is trying to shock them into not doing something- they don’t “tap” the back of the hand - it’s done with enough force to shock and the shock comes from the initial pain of the blow.

Not one of us can judge how little force can produce pain for a child - it’s someone physically stronger hitting someone with a different pain threshold

If someone imo feels they are justified in raising a hand , slipper etc to someone physically smaller than them as a punishment then imo they have failed that child

You went mental when Holgate “only” shoulder barged Firmino in the Derby, glad to see you now recognise it wasn’t violent!

 

[pokerjoke]

Sorry Gordon it’s getting a bit silly in fact beyond silly - how it’s got to the stage of sports from people thinking smacking a child is wrong I have no idea.

A cricketer hitting a ball isn’t violent for Christ sakes just as a bowler putting down bouncers and football ?!

If a sportsman commits a violent act on the sports field then they are punished , an adult smacking a child is imo a violent act and should be punished , just as if an adult smacked another adult it would be classed as assault

Smack a child means failing in the role of parent and protecting your own child. Who is going to protect the child from parent willing to hit them

IMO and yours Phil this thread has become stupid and I'm with you on not smacking my child,if others do it then its not for me to tell them how to bring up their kids,we are all different.
Gordon has gone off track but you are wrong about hitting someone else being assault,an England cricketer just got off for knocking out 2 guys,apparently self defence,or sticking up for someone else.

My question to you would be what you would do to a man who hit your wife or child in front of you,because you condemn violence would you just stand back and let them get away with it?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

IMO and yours Phil this thread has become stupid and I'm with you on not smacking my child,if others do it then its not for me to tell them how to bring up their kids,we are all different.
Gordon has gone off track but you are wrong about hitting someone else being assault,an England cricketer just got off for knocking out 2 guys,apparently self defence,or sticking up for someone else.

My question to you would be what you would do to a man who hit your wife or child in front of you,because you condemn violence would you just stand back and let them get away with it?

Stand by for the 1% non-coward rule

 

[Liverbirdie]

Yes I have broken a law and been punished for it.

As for your questions on laws being fair ? I suspect many would think they are and many would think they aren’t. I personally find no issues with them and believe I live my life within in - even if I may not agree with a rule i will respect it. That’s how I was brought up.

So you were brought up just to conform?

No matter how wrong you feel that a law or rule may be?

Do you not believe in protest, making a change or even breaking rules or laws if you feel that they are wrong?

What if a dictatorial government imposes certain restrictions, loss of privacy and martial law, so encouraging "legitimate" violence by the state - still just accept, as its the law?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You went mental when Holgate “only” shoulder barged Firmino in the Derby, glad to see you now recognise it wasn’t violent!

it was definitley reckless and dangerous borderline violent.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

it was definitley reckless and dangerous borderline violent.

That’s your opinion, but the man that matters decided it wasn’t and seeing as how LP is for supporting officials (as seen on the Williams thread) and against sports people getting in their faces, we (me and you) are obviously wrong.

 

[patricks148]

IMO and yours Phil this thread has become stupid and I'm with you on not smacking my child,if others do it then its not for me to tell them how to bring up their kids,we are all different.
Gordon has gone off track but you are wrong about hitting someone else being assault,an England cricketer just got off for knocking out 2 guys,apparently self defence,or sticking up for someone else.

My question to you would be what you would do to a man who hit your wife or child in front of you,because you condemn violence would you just stand back and let them get away with it?

he would obliviously reason with them, after all you would just be a coward to wade in wouldn't you?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So you were brought up just to conform?

No matter how wrong you feel that a law or rule may be?

Do you not believe in protest, making a change or even breaking rules or laws if you feel that they are wrong?

What if a dictatorial government imposes certain restrictions, loss of privacy and martial law, so encouraging "legitimate" violence by the state - still just accept, as its the law?

I spent 22 years in the military where I had to follow orders even if at times I didn’t agree with them

It’s part of my make up and I believe it’s respectful and the fabric of our society to respect the laws of the land

But yes I do believe people are entitled to peaceful protest their beliefs and yes laws can be changed but my life has been fine with the laws and regs we live in

 

[user2010]

Sorry Gordon it’s getting a bit silly in fact beyond silly - how it’s got to the stage of sports from people thinking smacking a child is wrong I have no idea.

A cricketer hitting a ball isn’t violent for Christ sakes just as a bowler putting down bouncers and football ?!

If a sportsman commits a violent act on the sports field then they are punished , an adult smacking a child is imo a violent act and should be punished , just as if an adult smacked another adult it would be classed as assault

Smack a child means failing in the role of parent and protecting your own child. Who is going to protect the child from parent willing to hit them

Absolute garbage. Utter crap.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I think it’s probably fair to say that most of us will have brought up our kids to be respectful and decent human beings, and thats whether we have chastised them by contact or my word of mouth.
We haven't created any monsters or serial killers, so we must have done something right whether everyone agrees with it or not.

What I do know, is that I have 2 lovely hardworking duaghters in their twenties who would help anyone in trouble, know right from wrong and will do anything their mum needs them to do. Thats all that matters to me.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I spent 22 years in the military where I had to follow orders even if at times I didn’t agree with them

It’s part of my make up and I believe it’s respectful and the fabric of our society to respect the laws of the land

But yes I do believe people are entitled to peaceful protest their beliefs and yes laws can be changed but my life has been fine with the laws and regs we live in

So do I, as a rule of thumb, but will make my own mind up on a case by case basis.

You still havent answered the other questions though......

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So do I, as a rule of thumb, but will make my own mind up on a case by case basis.

You still havent answered the other questions though......

I have no idea which ones - I always see loads of questions and what if and scenarios etc etc - but at the end of the day what’s the point ? I have beliefs about laws and rules as well as about violence plus how a parent should treat their own child. It seems at times people just look to trip people up in regards their opinion.

I was brought up to respect

I believe people should be able to protest peacefully

And I tbink the rest of the questions where What if’s about a government we don’t have ?

 

[Liverbirdie]

I have no idea which ones - I always see loads of questions and what if and scenarios etc etc - but at the end of the day what’s the point ? I have beliefs about laws and rules as well as about violence plus how a parent should treat their own child. It seems at times people just look to trip people up in regards their opinion.

I was brought up to respect

I believe people should be able to protest peacefully

And I tbink the rest of the questions where What if’s about a government we don’t have ?

Maybe you do, but your tone looked very dictatorial with regards to how others should bring up their children and their failings if they smack their own kids.

Back on point - I think that it should be a parent's own choice as to whether they do or not, and for others to say that its abuse/failing if they do is a bit rich.

 

[Tashyboy]

Maybe you do, but your tone looked very dictatorial with regards to how others should bring up their children and their failings if they smack their own kids.

Back on point - I think that it should be a parent's own choice as to whether they do or not, and for others to say that its abuse/failing if they do is a bit rich.

And after that last sentence the thread can be locked 👍

 

[Pin-seeker]

It’s part of my make up and I believe it’s respectful and the fabric of our society to respect the laws of the land

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What a truly fantastic attitude.