Sir Nigel Farage?

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delc said:
Yes, but Fairway Dodger was making the point that many Brits were/are indifferent to the advantages of being in the EU and regard it as holding us back, or being something to blame for the failures of our own Government. These notions have been greatly stoked up by Nigel Farage and the right wing gutter press. Unfortunately the Sun, Mail and Express have a much bigger readership than the more pro-EU Guardian and Independent!
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So people only vote according to the paper they read bias? You really do have a poor opinion of your country folks ability to decide, it worries me that we trust them in a General Election
 
delc said:
Well we had two World Wars involving Britain and Germany as the main protagonists in the first 45 years of the 20th Century, but nothing much in the 72 years since, a fair part of which we have been in the EEC or the EU as an ally of Germany. Doesn't that say it all?
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The EEC, EC and EU are not much of a factor in preventing 'war'. EU members do not have major Defence Capability.

Peace in Europe = The reason is NATO and the Cold War tensions between the USA and USSR/Russia predominates. UN Security Council and the style of government means 'war' in a conventional sense would not work in Europe. 'War' between democratic nations is outdated. Conflicts are now mostly asymmetric .
 
Old Skier said:
That was not your point, you seem to think there had been no wars in Europe since 1945 and that was because of the EU.
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There have been no wars between EEC/EU countries. A bit of blood letting following the collapse of some former Communist Eastern European countries who were not in the EU at the time.
 
delc said:
There have been no wars between EEC/EU countries. A bit of blood letting following the collapse of some former Communist Eastern European countries who were not in the EU at the time.
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There have been no wars started by Japan but they aren't in the EU, Australia haven't started any and last time I looked, Canada had been pretty War free as had New Zealand, they aren't in the EU either. Please can you stop this cyclic policy of suggesting that the EU have been responsible for preventing wars in Europe.
 
drdel said:
This is total rubbish it would appear you have no idea. You insult most of the professionals of the UK involved in the EU. Most of the people from the UK I worked with on EU project were commited and enthusiastic. If the EU wanted things done properly then it was usually the Brits they turned to to run the projects.
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I don't set out to insult anyone and am sorry if you take that view. I'm sure the people at the coal face were committed and enthusiastic but our political leaders never were. Do you deny that?
 
SocketRocket said:
There have been no wars started by Japan but they aren't in the EU, Australia haven't started any and last time I looked, Canada had been pretty War free as had New Zealand, they aren't in the EU either. Please can you stop this cyclic policy of suggesting that the EU have been responsible for preventing wars in Europe.
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Again, after two World Wars starting in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century, a United States of Europe concept was suggested by Sir Winston Churchill and others as a means of preventing future European Wars. There have been no inter-State wars in the United States of America since 1865, so maybe a sensible idea!
 
delc said:
Again, after two World Wars starting in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century, a United States of Europe concept was suggested by Sir Winston Churchill and others as a means of preventing future European Wars. There have been no inter-State wars in the United States of America since 1865, so maybe a sensible idea!
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Excellent! You have found the way to world peace!
Anyone know the phone number of the ISIS Trade Minister?
 
delc said:
Again, after two World Wars starting in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century, a United States of Europe concept was suggested by Sir Winston Churchill and others as a means of preventing future European Wars. There have been no inter-State wars in the United States of America since 1865, so maybe a sensible idea!
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Any idea who first coined the term "Europe a nation."?
Clue: It wasn't Winston Churchill.
 
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delc said:
Again, after two World Wars starting in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century, a United States of Europe concept was suggested by Sir Winston Churchill and others as a means of preventing future European Wars. There have been no inter-State wars in the United States of America since 1865, so maybe a sensible idea!
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Britain with her allies steps in to save Europe from the Nazis so Britain must go into a Europe wide Union to stop it from happening again.
Maybe the Brits won't want to do that.
I know, we will tell them it's a trade deal and we will spring the rest on them later.
 
delc said:
Again, after two World Wars starting in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century, a United States of Europe concept was suggested by Sir Winston Churchill and others as a means of preventing future European Wars. There have been no inter-State wars in the United States of America since 1865, so maybe a sensible idea!
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You have a spat with your next door neighbour over the height of her hedge.
It goes on for years. It calms down for a while and then she kicks off again.
According to this logic, you solve the problem by marrying her.
 
Old Skier said:
I presume delc has airbrushes the former Yugoslavia and what has been going on in eastern Ukraine from his history books.
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I did mention the wars that followed the breakup of Yugoslavia in Eastern Europe, but that country was not in the EU at the time. I think all the devolved countries are now. 😀
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I'm guessing that intelligent Brexiteers don't listen to any phone-ins as they'd rather not hear the ignorance - some of it obnoxious - coming from the underbelly of Brexit.
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Seems to occupy the time of remainers more than the intelligent leavers, could be to do with the difference in intelligence levels. IMO anyone who listens to rant radio is either lonely, sad or likes shouting at a radio.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I'm guessing that intelligent Brexiteers don't listen to any phone-ins as they'd rather not hear the ignorance - some of it obnoxious - coming from the underbelly of Brexit.
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I can think of one recently returned Remainer who posted up some equally obnoxious comments on Facebook, and he should know better as he has a degree.

As for listening to the likes of LBC, its the radio version of buying the Sun newspaper.
 
Hobbit said:
I can think of one recently returned Remainer who posted up some equally obnoxious comments on Facebook, and he should know better as he has a degree.

As for listening to the likes of LBC, its the radio version of buying the Sun newspaper.
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Or the Daily Mail and the Daily Express, because they are equally bad! :rolleyes:
 
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