Sir Nigel Farage?

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Wolf said:
Same here, never thought I'd agree with anything he says, but the part about how the voting systems set up I do?
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Get you tinfoil hat on;) don’t let him in, he only started moaning after 7-8 failed attempts to become an MP.:)
 
pauldj42 said:
Get you tinfoil hat on;) don’t let him in, he only started moaning after 7-8 failed attempts to become an MP.:)
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I know he's a chancer and parties standing in one specific region skew them a but, but as can be seen from these stats about how many votes were needed for 1 MP in the election, it needs reform. 1st past the post is great for a horse race, not so good for feeling that your voice is always heard in elections.

  • 864,743 to elect the lone Green MP
  • 642,303 votes for zero Brexit Party MPs
  • 334,122 to elect each Liberal Democrat
  • 50,817 to elect each Labour MP
  • 38,300 votes to elect each Conservative MP
  • 38,316 to elect each Plaid Cymru MP
  • 25,882 to elect each SNP MP
 
Hacker Khan said:
I know he's a chancer and parties standing in one specific region skew them a but, but as can be seen from these stats about how many votes were needed for 1 MP in the election, it needs reform. 1st past the post is great for a horse race, not so good for feeling that your voice is always heard in elections.

  • 864,743 to elect the lone Green MP
  • 642,303 votes for zero Brexit Party MPs
  • 334,122 to elect each Liberal Democrat
  • 50,817 to elect each Labour MP
  • 38,300 votes to elect each Conservative MP
  • 38,316 to elect each Plaid Cymru MP
  • 25,882 to elect each SNP MP
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If i was the labour party i would be sending Farage a Xmas card. Coz some of the results i saw, the votes that Brexit party took would not of gone to Labour but the Tories. those 642,303 votes going to brexit rather than Tories, my god labour would of been obliterated.
 
Tashyboy said:
If i was the labour party i would be sending Farage a Xmas card. Coz some of the results i saw, the votes that Brexit party took would not of gone to Labour but the Tories. those 642,303 votes going to brexit rather than Tories, my god labour would of been obliterated.
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I’d disagree, talking to people around here they would never ever vote tory, they’d rather not vote. The Brexit Party gave them an out clause, ie, voted Leave, not happy with Labour, the choice until Brexit Party came along was easy, they weren’t going to vote.
 
Hacker Khan said:
I know he's a chancer and parties standing in one specific region skew them a but, but as can be seen from these stats about how many votes were needed for 1 MP in the election, it needs reform. 1st past the post is great for a horse race, not so good for feeling that your voice is always heard in elections.

  • 864,743 to elect the lone Green MP
  • 642,303 votes for zero Brexit Party MPs
  • 334,122 to elect each Liberal Democrat
  • 50,817 to elect each Labour MP
  • 38,300 votes to elect each Conservative MP
  • 38,316 to elect each Plaid Cymru MP
  • 25,882 to elect each SNP MP
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I understand that and I can see both sides of the FPTP system, but everyone standing for election in any area, knew and knows what is required, if he wants change, go with a mainstream party and chang...........oops, forgot, he tried that;)
 
Hopefully the leaders of the Green Party will now get more exposure in the media (esp TV and Radio) than Farage. They have more votes and an MP...he's got a great opinion of himself.
 
No honour for Farage. Good - rare has there been such a divisive character in British politics. Besides did he not claim he had been offered a peerage by Johnson prior to the GE and has said that he would not accept any honour. So what’s the fuss about him not being awarded one in the NY Ho ours List.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-peerage-election-boris-johnson-a9198996.html

Note that I see Blair as being decisive over one decision - Iraq. Farage has been divisive - and deliberately so - for years and in a way that has been damaging to the country by creating an angry split in and between people in a way that Blair was nowhere near doing.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Farage has been divisive - and deliberately so - for years and in a way that has been damaging to the country by creating an angry split in and between people in a way that Blair was nowhere near doing.
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I really do wish you'd stop telling us how angry we are.
And if a few are angry, you're just making it worse by reminding them.
Step away from the rubbish in the media and get on with your life, and stop worrying about something you have no control over, it can't be good for your health
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
No honour for Farage. Good - rare has there been such a divisive character in British politics. Besides did he not claim he had been offered a peerage by Johnson prior to the GE and has said that he would not accept any honour. So what’s the fuss about him not being awarded one in the NY Ho ours List.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-peerage-election-boris-johnson-a9198996.html

Note that I see Blair as being decisive over one decision - Iraq. Farage has been divisive - and deliberately so - for years and in a way that has been damaging to the country by creating an angry split in and between people in a way that Blair was nowhere near doing.
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Whilst I agree with you over Farage, though i don't obsess over him, I feel Blair has caused more damage, lasting damage.

How many members of the British armed forces lost their lives, or continue to suffer, because of Blair's decision to go into Iraq AND Afghanistan? How many terror attacks have occurred in the UK, and how many British citizens have lost their lives or been injured because of Blair's foreign policy? And how many more will lose their lives to terror attacks

Whilst I detest Farage's politics, I feel Blair should be in prison. The US and the UK jumped the gun with the Iraq war. It was never UN sanctioned.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
No honour for Farage. Good - rare has there been such a divisive character in British politics. Besides did he not claim he had been offered a peerage by Johnson prior to the GE and has said that he would not accept any honour. So what’s the fuss about him not being awarded one in the NY Ho ours List.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-peerage-election-boris-johnson-a9198996.html

Note that I see Blair as being decisive over one decision - Iraq. Farage has been divisive - and deliberately so - for years and in a way that has been damaging to the country by creating an angry split in and between people in a way that Blair was nowhere near doing.
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None more angry than you, though.
If it isn't Johnson, it's Trump and if it isn't him it's Farage.
I bet you play ". Eeny , meany, miney mo" before you decide which to have a pop at.
 
I notice IDS got his Empire gong though.

Seemingly he has 48 hours to complete the following tasks before he can claim his benefit.
Prove he is a UK citizen.
Travel to Peterborough to fill in a complicated form.
Be able to recite off memory Tam o' Shanter.
Drink a pint of John Smiths in a oner
Know the third verse of God Save the Queen.
Know the names of the Scarlets front row.
 
If you don’t like SILH’s post’s, put him on ignore, more people seem to react to his posts telling him not to react while reacting themselves. :unsure:
 
Hobbit said:
Whilst I agree with you over Farage, though i don't obsess over him, I feel Blair has caused more damage, lasting damage.

How many members of the British armed forces lost their lives, or continue to suffer, because of Blair's decision to go into Iraq AND Afghanistan? How many terror attacks have occurred in the UK, and how many British citizens have lost their lives or been injured because of Blair's foreign policy? And how many more will lose their lives to terror attacks

Whilst I detest Farage's politics, I feel Blair should be in prison. The US and the UK jumped the gun with the Iraq war. It was never UN sanctioned.
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Whilst I have sympathy with your view re Blair, I would argue that it's too early to say whether the effects of Farage et al are as bad as a whole or not.
Also whilst we may know what the outcome of Blair is now, we dont really know what we may be dealing with now if they hadnt done what they did.
 
Farage holds views that he is honest about but he is always being portrayed as a far right racist neo Natzi, I just dont see him this way. Do his views on controlling immigration make him a racist? does his desire to get the UK out of the EU make him a Natzi?
The Media and Socialists do what they always do when someone has a political outlook that runs contrary to their own they start their campaign of dirty tricks and brain washing so that anyone who dares to align themselves with him will have the stuff that tends to stick thrown at them.
I hear these generic accusations but very few actual facts other than petty irrevelences and the Tommy Robinson card being rolled out ad nausiem.
 
SocketRocket said:
Farage holds views that he is honest about but he is always being portrayed as a far right racist neo Natzi, I just dont see him this way. Do his views on controlling immigration make him a racist? does his desire to get the UK out of the EU make him a Natzi?
The Media and Socialists do what they always do when someone has a political outlook that runs contrary to their own they start their campaign of dirty tricks and brain washing so that anyone who dares to align themselves with him will have the stuff that tends to stick thrown at them.
I hear these generic accusations but very few actual facts other than petty irrevelences and the Tommy Robinson card being rolled out ad nausiem.
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The only thing I can say to defend your stance is that Hitler and Mussolini blinded people, too.
 
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