Sir Alex Ferguson

carrager should have been a straight red, but least he was near the ball, unlike the coward rooney who used his elbow.
i wish the DO F A would grow some and take retrospective action, but theres more chance of me winning the open.
shagster
 
They can't break their own rules by doing that. It's not the big Man Utd conspiracy people want to be. Gerrard was allowed off with a similar offence this season.
 
Lets be honest Ferguson has had a stranglehold on the press and FA for years and it's going to take a brave man to dismantle it.

If any journo has a pop at him or utd they get banned from carrington/old trafford. For years he has got away with having a pop at refs and whoever else he feels like bad mouthing and it's about time he is taken to sword.

As for carraghers challenge i thought nani was a bit too quick for him and carragher mis-timed it, We've seen red cards given for them and yellows too.
 
More nonsense. Ferguson has a strangehold over no one. The amount of baseless rhetoric than opposing fans come out with is hilarious.

As for Carragher, wise your head. I highly doubt he was even trying to play the ball. It was an old fashioned enforcer.
 
More nonsense. Ferguson has a strangehold over no one. The amount of baseless rhetoric than opposing fans come out with is hilarious.

As for Carragher, wise your head. I highly doubt he was even trying to play the ball. It was an old fashioned enforcer.
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The press wont say boo to him except the very few, Alan greene off 5live is banned from his press conferences when he actually does one.

In all the years he's bad mouthed refs he has never ever had a touchline ban. He got warned last year about his conduct to refs and thats it.

He is also the main man at the LMA so there's no way on earth he will ever get punished.
 
In all the years he's bad mouthed refs he has never ever had a touchline ban. He got warned last year about his conduct to refs and thats it.
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Or, in reality, he was the first PL manager to get a touchline ban for comments made about a referee.

See, now you're just making stuff up. Not unusual. Why not mention that Rio Ferdinand passed more invasive tests proving his missed drugs test wasn't because he had taken anything yet he was still given a disproportionately long ban? Was that more bias towards us?
 
Alex Ferguson gets away with what he does because he is a genuinely scary person; there is always an implied, imminent threat of extreme violence when he is in town. And, yes, he is totally out of touch with reality when it comes to defending his players... but that is what he is paid a lot of money to do.

Why is he still so angry? Well, my team (see rotating avatar) sacked him about 30 years ago in connection with an unauthorised payment of £25 to a certain player. Seems that Alex has had to make do with Premiership titles and Champions League glory whilst missing out on the glorious football feast that is the Refrewshire derby between St Mirren and Morton. When he was in charge at Love Street, we finished 4th and 3rd in consecutive years. He is a great manager who knows how to play the game, the media and the fans for his own (and his team's) maximum gain. You may not like him and think he is a wee sh*t but his footballing CV is impeccable.
 
the *** rio should have been banned for 2 years end of,
you do not miss tests unless you are high or a complete ***
rio most probably is in both camps, definately one of them
another case of football thinking its above everyone else
shagster :mad:
 
Rio did have a disproportionate ban. In any other sport, he would have had two years. Footy is signed up to Wada, so the ruling is two years. I can only assume that the money in footy provides for some very expensive lawyers. Or, the FA are pathetic. Or both.
 
Like him or not, just like Tiger Woods, Ferguson is THE best manager that has ever managed ANY team, let alone Man Utd.
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:eek:

I'm sure Clough,Stein,Shankly,Busby & Paisley from The UK might have their supporters too, never mind the likes of Sachi,Trappatoni,Del Bosque & Lippi.

Anyway, the best manager imo was Rinus Michels.

Ferguson is quality, no doubt, but there are others who are his equal.
 
Let the Stats speak......(Wikipedia)

Games/Win Ratio's:

Clough 1319/45.03%
Shankly 1075/49.95%
Paisley 490 / 56.12%
Del Bosque 302 / 58.28%

Ferguson 2090 / 57.64%

Ok, Del Bosque is 'slightly' ahead in percentage terms, but over only 302 games in charge, - lets see how he compares after over 2090 games in charge like Sir Alex.
 
Let the Stats speak......(Wikipedia)

Games/Win Ratio's:

Clough 1319/45.03%
Shankly 1075/49.95%
Paisley 490 / 56.12%
Del Bosque 302 / 58.28%

Ferguson 2090 / 57.64%

Ok, Del Bosque is 'slightly' ahead in percentage terms, but over only 302 games in charge, - lets see how he compares after over 2090 games in charge like Sir Alex.
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Lies,damn lies and statistics,eh? ;)

Use Stein as an example, he's not as good as Lennon or O'Neill at Parkhead

Neil Lennon overall win % = 76.74%
Martin O'Neill overall win % = 75.53%
Jock Stein overall win % = 69.90%
Gordon Strachan overall win % = 67.03%


Still better than Ferguson,though.

Not too fussed by %'s, though.SAF has spent extra-ordinary money at OT so more wins would be expected.

Stein,Michels,Busby,Shankly & Clough created football clubs, not football teams.Thats what seperate them from Ferguson.
 
There's not been any mention of the fact that in the fracas after Rafael's poor challenge (which I think was a rush of blood caused by the fact Maxi had just gone studs first into Rafael) Suarez (who recently served a long ban for biting a player) pulled Rafael's hair.
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Wasn't Carragher's tackle "a rush of blood" too? It was utter stupidity on Carragher's part. There was just no need to put in such a crazy and dangerous tackle. It could have been the turning point.

What has Suarez's ban got to do with anything?

Carragher should have gone. Maxi booked. Rafael sent off.

Instead we hear about how Nani was making more of it than there was when he had a gaping wound on his leg.
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My initial view was that it was a bad tackle, Nani was ok, got up, tried to get Carragher booked or sent off and then fell down making a meal of it.

It was only after the fact, that it was clear that Nani had been actually hurt.

There's more than a little bit of the "Boy who cried Wolf" about this situation. Nani's hystrionics in the past came back to haunt him when he was genuinely injured this time.

As a Man Utd fan, I'm used to reading complete drivel normally driven by "small team" syndrome and paranoia but sometimes it goes beyond football bias and into the fantastical.
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People need to take everything managers say with a big pinch of salt. They are looking after their team's interest and are obviously and clearly biased (as most fans are too).

People take these sort of comments far less seriously.
 
You can hardly hold up Celtic's win ratio against Sir Alex's at ManU ffs - Celtic & Rangers only have themselves to play against !!
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Much the same as United only competing against Arsenal & Chelsea,then?
Decrying Stein's achievements to support how good a manager Ferguson is laced with irony.If you know your history indeed.

The 50's/60's/70's in Scotland were pretty much comparable to England at the time, Dundee,Hibs,Dunfermline,Hearts all pretty competitive, hence why most big English teams were littered with Scotsmen.

He also did pretty well against the mighty Leeds team of that era iirc.And given his entire team was made up of local lads, it stands up easily to Ferguson-something Ferguson would be the first to agree with I'd bet.

I'll agree with Shankly,Busby and Ferguson....Stein is a giant in British football history.
 
You can hardly hold up Celtic's win ratio against Sir Alex's at ManU ffs - Celtic & Rangers only have themselves to play against !!
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Much the same as United only competing against Arsenal & Chelsea,then?
Decrying Stein's achievements to support how good a manager Ferguson is laced with irony.If you know your history indeed.

The 50's/60's/70's in Scotland were pretty much comparable to England at the time, Dundee,Hibs,Dunfermline,Hearts all pretty competitive, hence why most big English teams were littered with Scotsmen.

He also did pretty well against the mighty Leeds team of that era iirc.And given his entire team was made up of local lads, it stands up easily to Ferguson-something Ferguson would be the first to agree with I'd bet.

I'll agree with Shankly,Busby and Ferguson....Stein is a giant in British football history.
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................Is the correct answer :)

My old man went to see the apparently 'Mighty Leeds'in the big cup semi final and came away thinking they were not as mighty as people were led to believe. ;)
 
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