Should the Masters be a Major

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Should the Masters be a Major


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Indeed. The sport with the most marked increase in this country in recent years (cycling) cant be contributed to TV coverage. The TdF has been the only major event consistently covered for decades and is still the only major event of the main cycling tour / calendar to be covered.

I take it you don't have Eurosport?
 
Yes but there is more coverage of The Masters than there was 10 years ago but still golfers numbers have fallen so that doesn't stack up. Falling numbers is down to any number of reasons.Lack of coverage is just one possible cause

I agree there are loads of reasons.

We have unfortunately had 3 deaths this year that play in a group of about 16 or so and none of these lovely guys has had his place taken by anyone.
It seems there are no 25 -35 year olds coming into the game and its probably down to an age where they are still active in other sports.
Yes you will get some that retire from football or rugby etc but where are all the youngsters.
A major problem as I see it is the weather and our short golf season they just cant get out and practice and take it seriously.
 
I take it you don't have Eurosport?

Nope. However I remember watching cycling aplenty on Eurosport during the mid to late 90's when the sport was guffawed at in this country. Their coverage isn't behind the upsurge. The likes of Bradley Wiggins and Chris Hoy, and their successes, are more likely to be why cycling has taken off.
 
Wimbledon has most of the other courts on the red button, in fuzzy vision.

OK, the masters now has amen corner in fuzzy, and two selected groups also. Wow, how flipping generous of them.

It's a major, show it all. If people aren't interested, they won't watch it. But they will never find out.

Oh, and it's not on my bucket list. I think without the crowds, it would be an empty soulless patch of grass, with not a lot of definition. Many of the greens are in the middle of nowhere. Not my style of course at all.

With you on this, I saw online pics & video, google maps etc taken out of season and without grandstands, its not even close to the same and soooo much (hazard free) space around many greens
 
Most of the major tours are on tv these days, both sky and eurosport.

That's something which cant be said isn't covered, cycling coverage has grown massively over the last few years. And long may it continue
 
Wimbledon has most of the other courts on the red button, in fuzzy vision.

OK, the masters now has amen corner in fuzzy, and two selected groups also. Wow, how flipping generous of them.

It's a major, show it all. If people aren't interested, they won't watch it. But they will never find out.

Oh, and it's not on my bucket list. I think without the crowds, it would be an empty soulless patch of grass, with not a lot of definition. Many of the greens are in the middle of nowhere. Not my style of course at all.

I'm not sure Bobby Jones designed the course thinking with vast crowds and grandstands in mind.

As for definition, plenty of players have said that television doesn't do justice to how hilly the course is.
 
You can look at it another way. I'm over in the US now and you could see live nationwide coverage of some 10 year olds putting and chipping on one hole at Augusta. But in one of the most anticipated masters in decades you can't see the Pro's play half the course on 2 days in the proper tournament. Does that seem right?
 
With you on this, I saw online pics & video, google maps etc taken out of season and without grandstands, its not even close to the same and soooo much (hazard free) space around many greens

a couple of guys in our roll up have played it and both described it as " a bit of a field" without the crowds and stands, bith said they where bitterly disappointed.
 
I know some people that have played it - said nothing but good things about it. Very quiet , immaculate condition , greens quick , felt special but didnt wow them
 
I'm not sure Bobby Jones designed the course thinking with vast crowds and grandstands in mind.

As for definition, plenty of players have said that television doesn't do justice to how hilly the course is.

Andrew Cotter walked the course yesterday with a GPS and posted the graph on his twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/MrAndrewCotter

Looks like it's about 80m between high point near the clubhouse and low point down on the 12th green!
 
I can believe that participation and interest in the sport would be curtailed by only sky showing coverage (viewing figures for golf and f1 prove this) but I can't believe for one second that people are turning away because they don't get to see all of the shots on all of the holes. Fine to be upset about it, and to want more, but to think that people are turning away because of it is just not believable.
 
No it should not be.

Not least because there is no Ladies event.


As an aside, I disagree with all those who say the past champions should not be allowed to play. I think it is great that they can and I always enjoy seeing them. To say they are taking up places for young pros is utter rubbish. They are there because they earned their place. End of story.
 
I agree. But be prepared for a backlash to your comment from people who want the coverage to start the moment the first player gets out of bed and scratches his derriere!

Oh, that's already happening....Days and days of build up, finding things to fill the hours during which nothing is going on. I'm glad I'm working all week.

And I can't picture in my mind, right now, any hole on the front 9 except the 2nd, whereas I can see the back 9 clearly. And find it quite sad that people feel the need to not believe it. I'm sure when I see them I'll remember them but that's not then point. The point is I can't see them now.
 
As an aside, I disagree with all those who say the past champions should not be allowed to play. I think it is great that they can and I always enjoy seeing them. To say they are taking up places for young pros is utter rubbish. They are there because they earned their place. End of story.

I agree is it good to see them. It is a subjective one. Perhaps some people feel it is overdone more at the Masters, and of course their total field size is typically smaller - so the ratio can feel out maybe.
Is it a field of 89 this year? Against often over 150 for the Opens?
 
No it should not be.

Not least because there is no Ladies event.


As an aside, I disagree with all those who say the past champions should not be allowed to play. I think it is great that they can and I always enjoy seeing them. To say they are taking up places for young pros is utter rubbish. They are there because they earned their place. End of story.

Does that mean that those ladies majors where there is no male equivalent also dont count?
 
Oh, that's already happening....Days and days of build up, finding things to fill the hours during which nothing is going on. I'm glad I'm working all week.

And I can't picture in my mind, right now, any hole on the front 9 except the 2nd, whereas I can see the back 9 clearly. And find it quite sad that people feel the need to not believe it. I'm sure when I see them I'll remember them but that's not then point. The point is I can't see them now.

At your age there's plenty you can't picture in your mind :whistle::rofl:. The first usually gets shown a bit over the first two days. To me, all this is irrelevant and it's case of simply getting what we're given. The Masters committee still think drip feeding the coverage over the first two days heightens expectation for the weekend. That won't change and so I'll sit down on Thursday and relish every bit of the coverage
 
a couple of guys in our roll up have played it and both described it as " a bit of a field" without the crowds and stands, bith said they where bitterly disappointed.

Saw this on Poulter's Twitter...

[video=youtube;eakOeT3MLY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eakOeT3MLY8[/video]

And it looks like a big open field. I still wouldn't say no. ;)
 
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